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| Flipley | hey matt |
| MattH | 'Lo, All |
| impalergeneral | But yu can't recycle the second season of angel. he'll wind up losing fans...his Fang Gang for sure |
| MattH | Angel had no where to go be up... |
| MattH | be = but |
| Marlowe | hopefully not like Cordy did last season |
| MattH | Actually, I liked her better as a higher being than I do now. Of course, I liked the BTVS Cordy best of all. Or Ats Season 1 Cordy |
| Marlowe | from Ascending the Heavens to boinking Connor |
| impalergeneral | I'l agree with that. She may be snippy, but she knew what was going on, and still wanted to help |
| impalergeneral | Now she's a victim of circumstance..and worse |
| Marlowe | yeah, I liked the snarky but caring Cordy |
| MattH | She isn't snarky enough anymore |
| Marlowe | she's getting some of the snarkiness back, but the rest is gone |
| Marlowe | wanting to help the helpess etc |
| impalergeneral | Yeah, that mision is lost in the apocalypse problem |
| Marlowe | she doesn't seem to care about any of the other characters |
| MattH | I miss the Angel that was looking for redemption... |
| MattH | He got some good brooding in, which was nice. |
| impalergeneral | That's the worst loss of all |
| impalergeneral | That sun theory is to explain why whatever happens on Angel isn't happening on Buffy...along with the "different networks excuse" |
| Marlowe | i liked Gwen |
| impalergeneral | Gwen is someone Professor X never met |
| MattH | Gwen is gorgeous |
| Marlowe | I loved her scene with Gunn |
| MattH | Maybe in a spin-off. |
| MattH | Add Gwen, get rid of Fred |
| Marlowe | or Cordy |
| impalergeneral | Hmmmm..Miss Static Shock or Miss Brainy Girl with no hips |
| MattH | Also get rid of Connor and Gunn. Restore Cordy to season 1 Cordy. |
| impalergeneral | Gwen wouldn't fit on Angel. Not paranormal enough |
| impalergeneral | She should be on Birds of Prey |
| Marlowe | that's a good idea |
| Marlowe | I only watched an ep of Birds of Prey |
| MattH | We don't know why she has her powers...maybe she is part demon and doesn't know it. |
| Marlowe | It was okay, but it was't very superheroey |
| Marlowe | is Cordy still a demon? |
| impalergeneral | she has a demon brain to get the visions |
| Marlowe | she did the floaty thing and the healing thing |
| MattH | She got her memory back - she broke it off as she saw what he had really done as Angelus. |
| Marlowe | but she should also have had memories of what he had done as Angel |
| impalergeneral | I just gave the SC a note about that |
| impalergeneral | But you have to wonder, can the Angelus plot twist work again, especially when it's done for a good reason--yet certain to backfire? |
| MattH | Angelus is so BTVS Season 2.... |
| MattH | Been there, done that |
| Flipley | Boring-Anus is better as Angelus, though |
| impalergeneral | YES..and that's why I think it will hurt the show in the long run more than help it |
| Flipley | he puts a bit of effort into the part |
| Marlowe | pretty convoluted way to get Angelus |
| Marlowe | much as I would like seeing Angelus... |
| MattH | Yeah - the problem with Angel has always been its Star... |
| Marlowe | they probably could have done a flashback ep of Angelus |
| impalergeneral | Once angel is restored, will the Fang Gang believe in him again? Will ANGEL believe in himself again..or think there's no way he can atone for what he is? |
| Marlowe | like starting from scratch again? |
| Flipley | that's so Alias |
| Marlowe | lol |
| MattH | I've never watched Alias, so I can't comment. |
| impalergeneral | The only way Joss can outsmart us is to figire a way that Angelus actually helps humanity in a big way..and do it sincerely. Maybe that restore shis soul faster than the other way |
| Marlowe | you liked the last ep of Alias flipley? |
| Flipley | not so much as to make it must-see tv for me, I'm afraid |
| Flipley | they lost me by making Sydney cry so much, and wasting Merrin Dungey (until now), plus the whole playing up of the romance angle seems forced |
| impalergeneral | Well, they were selling the bikini shots of Sydney more than the plot...and I suspect what will come will be worse than what they think they killed |
| Flipley | that was all about keeping the Stupor Bowl audience.... |
| Flipley | and hoping they'd stick around for future eppies |
| Flipley | I guess that's why I didn't enjoy it as much as I should, it seemed so ratings-driven |
| impalergeneral | Yeah, but that didn't work...since they waited until 11 PM Eastern to show the ep. I mean, why should Bon Jovi be part of a trophy ceremony? |
| Marlowe | Merrin? is that Dixon? |
| Flipley | I stopped watching Alias regularly late last year, but I'll still catch it if I'm home |
| Flipley | Merrin Dungey is Francie |
| Flipley | and Francie clone now |
| Marlowe | I knew that they tailored that ep to grab new viewers |
| Marlowe | yeah, for a sec there I thought it was Will that was killed |
| Marlowe | I really didn't care for Francie at all, she seemed little more than a backdrop |
| Flipley | she was mere window dressing...they dropped her best plot |
| Marlowe | her and Will? |
| Flipley | her fiancee that got caught cheating? was initially supposed to be with a GUY lol |
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| Flipley | hi FiatLux |
| Marlowe | hello fiatlux |
| MattH | Hiya, FiatLux |
| FiatLux | Hey there. |
| Marlowe | first time here? |
| FiatLux | I just had to come in and see if anyone else cracked up when KC went all sarcastic on Angelus |
| impalergeneral | Sure. I still say it's going to backfire...and hurt the show |
| MattH | Well, since we get Faith back at the same time, it might be a wash |
| FiatLux | I love obvious sarcasm! Oh I caaaan't wait!!! |
| MattH | Of course, she could show how bland and uninteresting the other characters are |
| FiatLux | One bad plus one good? |
| impalergeneral | And we break even? |
| FiatLux | No we are still sad and angry :) |
| MattH | I am pretty much bored and indifferent myself ;) |
| Marlowe | how long have you been listening to the show fiat? |
| impalergeneral | Let's face it....bringnig back angel seems like a "well, this is the last season; let's get this out of the way" idea |
| impalergeneral | or Angelus, I mean |
| FiatLux | CM: Since in the middle of the fifth season |
| MattH | I am beginning to get the feeling that this is Angels last season also....and that doesn't depress me at all |
| impalergeneral | Once yu do the "Return of Angelus" plotline, there's not much left to do...except crossing over to...say....John Doe? |
| FiatLux | I agree, it's like they just want to be able to break up the set to do a buffy spin off |
| Flipley | hardly lol |
| impalergeneral | Believe me, Matt H, the WB programming department has the same feeling. |
| MattH | Yeah...rumor has it that Eliza Dushku may be interested after all. |
| impalergeneral | It would sure explain putting it on against "Americna Idol" |
| Marlowe | the Beast guy won't be around much longer either |
| MattH | I think the Beast is working for t he FE, myself. |
| impalergeneral | I heard that, and one possible reason how that will be done |
| MattH | I hope so, the other obvious way for a spinoff is to kill Faith... |
| FiatLux | That's also getting on my nerves. How SDale acts like LA doesn't exist and vice versa |
| impalergeneral | It's not the show, it's the WB forcing LA to pretend S-dale doesn't exist |
| MattH | Yeah...A phone call or two wouldn't be out of order |
| FiatLux | Yeah but can't they just call? |
| impalergeneral | I think Angel would have benefitted frmo a few more crossover appearances, even from Xander and Willow |
| MattH | It makes sense that they would share information... |
| FiatLux | "Hello?, yes I understand." click? |
| impalergeneral | Exactly, of course, it's too late to take advantage of that..or so it seems |
| FiatLux | I've seen tonight's Angel and they're may be a vague reference to something like that, or maybe I'm just wishing too hard. |
| impalergeneral | Yeah. It would have been gold seeing Giles check up on Wesley.. |
| MattH | Not too hard.... |
| MattH | What I really want to see is everyones' reaction to Spike having a soul... |
| impalergeneral | That is SOLID GOLD...and we won't see that either |
| FiatLux | Way too much funny background info to get into. |
| FiatLux | Just watching Xander and Willow's reaction to what all has happened to Cordy |
| FiatLux | "HIS SON..." uh |
| MattH | You're what ?!? And Angel's son is the father ?!? |
| impalergeneral | Shhesh...accelerated soap opera aging gone wild! |
| FiatLux | Let the world ender and carpenter get their minds around that :) |
| Marlowe | better get going...Angel is coming on soon |
| Marlowe | nice to have met you FiatLux! |
| FiatLux | You too. Bye |
| Marlowe | hope to see you nex time |
| Marlowe | nex=next |
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| MattH | I don't think he looks like a 13 year old girl...he is really boring though. |
| impalergeneral | makes yu wish Connor was played by Hayden Chrstiansen |
| impalergeneral | alias the future Darth vader |
| impalergeneral | Gunn and Wesley on Celebrity Boxing? Hmmm....I foresaw this fight except Wesley wouold fight Giles |
| impalergeneral | What both shows have here is a failure to communicate |
| MattH | Kitty Torture - Who and hoo |
| Flipley | GO ILLINI! |
| Flipley | woohoo for beating Michigan |
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| MattH | Wesley is the most complex character on the show right now. |
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| FiatLux | Hi again |
| MattH | Welcome back |
| MattH | M.E. is definitely playing with Candy |
| FiatLux | I think I'm gonna have to restart my computer. I'm having audio problems. BRB |
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| Flipley | everybody's dying out tonight, Matt |
| Flipley | I'm IMing with Mia, so I'm a bit out of it |
| MattH | Sawright, I was just reading the latest installment of Tenhawk's Journeyverse. |
| Flipley | what the heck is that? |
| MattH | Fanfiction. Xander centered. Crossovers with about every show in existance. |
| Flipley | LOL....bizzarro |
| MattH | Tenhawk manages to pull it off really well. |
| Flipley | Does Xander end up on Scrubs? |
| MattH | Nope.... Some of the characters are from Dogma, Hercules,. SG-1, Beverly Hills Cop, Charmed, Brimstone and a whole lot more. |
| Flipley | Scary nerdland, I'm not sure I want to visit lol |
| MattH | I would be dubious hearing that description too. Tenhawk has a really good sense of drama, though. So of his coauthors works bore me to tears, though (Others have started writing in his universe) |
| MattH | I'm big into reading fanfic ;-) |
| Flipley | I can't handle it.....lol |
| Flipley | I'd rather read something professional, if I'm going to read outside of work lol |
| MattH | Most fanfiction is dreck, but about 5% is good and 1% really good. Some of it really is professional quality. Ryan Kinkor's Harsh Legacy was an alternative Season 6 and is *reall* well written. Adam Windsor wrote an incredible Faith story called Watching Your Back which is also really good. |
| Flipley | got a link for them? |
| MattH | Both are are archived on my site in e-book format (Need Palmreader) for this. "Watching Your Back" is at http://adamwindsor.cjb.net/ in html format. The first few episodes of Harsh Legacy are here: http://www.x-lander.net/harsh.htm and may be on fanfiction.net |
| MattH | My site is www.launchpadzero.net |
| Flipley | thanks |
| MattH | Most anything by M. Scott Eiland is good also. |
| Flipley | that name sounds familiar...published author, or Bronzer? lol |
| MattH | Used to post a lot on usenet in the buffy newsgroups. Very prolific. |
| MattH | Checked fanfiction.net . Ryan has posted all 18 stories in Harsh Legacy there: http://www.fanfiction.net/profile.php?userid=102069 |
| Flipley | thanks |
| MattH | Never watched American Idol.... |
| Flipley | I don't make a habit of it, but these early stages include some pretty funny clips |
| MattH | In general I don't watch much TV (with a few exceptions ;-) ) |
| Flipley | I don't play video games lol |
| MattH | Neither do I - once in a blue moon, maybe. |
| Flipley | and so I'm in front of computer for work, and this, mostly |
| MattH | I get that. I am a major computer geek - but I like to program and create stuff more than play games. |
| Flipley | your job? |
| MattH | Right now I am working as a Access Developer at Nestle, but that job ends Friday (I am a contractor). I have been mostly Access Programming since last May. |
| Flipley | eeeeeeeeek |
| Flipley | Access is okay, though |
| MattH | Well, its not Delphi ;-) but it can do some nice stuff. |
| MattH | Just wrote my first Access add-in recently. |
| MattH | Interesting Kitty Torture... |
| Flipley | aha...did you get a CS degree from college? |
| MattH | No. My degree is in Molecular Biology |
| Flipley | lol |
| Flipley | I hire scientists/faculty for a basic science department in a teaching hospital |
| MattH | UCSF? |
| Flipley | you read my IP? lol |
| Flipley | working late tonight |
| Flipley | filing, but not really working lol |
| MattH | Kinda . I checked my webstats and that was the last entry. |
| Flipley | lol yep, Epidemiology and Biostatistics here..... |
| MattH | I liked the science of Molecular Biology, but after a year and a half of grad school... I decided lab work wasn't for me. |
| Flipley | there ya have it..... |
| Flipley | I went to law school out here, hated it, but loved the area and stuck around |
| MattH | Kind of how I ended up in LA. |
| Flipley | you going to PBP then? |
| MattH | No... |
| MattH | I don't think I have ever posted on the Bronze (any version) |
| Flipley | it's a tad strange, particularly since I'm not a 20 year old, but I am meeting friends and taking a break from work |
| Flipley | I'm not a regular Bronzer, but had a great time last year, and since this is the last one, figured I should do it again |
| MattH | This is tough Kitty Torture. Nick is really impressive. |
| Flipley | yep |
| MattH | Welcome To The Hellmouth |
| MattH | snakes - Jenny Calendar |
| MattH | Prophecy Girl |
| Flipley | good call |
| MattH | Candy gives too many hints |
| Flipley | 9 ways to skin them |
| MattH | More than one way to skin a cat - |
| Flipley | rather, more than one way to skin them |
| MattH | I like that line of the mayor's |
| MattH | Getting up out of Angel's bed |
| MattH | The Prom |
| MattH | Didn't know the bonus |
| MattH | Turns into faith |
| MattH | then turns back |
| MattH | That was an easy one |
| Flipley | New Moon Rising |
| MattH | New Moon Rising |
| MattH | I wouldn't have got trixie |
| MattH | I don't think that guy was a mindsuck victim. He was too lucid. |
| MattH | Cat peed on the hot plate |
| MattH | 56% |
| Flipley | lol |
| Flipley | nerd lol |
| Flipley | can't leave a math problem alone |
| MattH | I prefer the term Geek. |
| Flipley | lol |
| MattH | Hey - I *like* math |
| Flipley | I'm a dork, I knwo all the differences |
| Flipley | know, even |
| MattH | I am just waiting for Kitty to do better on a Kitty Torture than she did on my first set of questions... |
| Flipley | see ya, matt |
| MattH | Cya next week |
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| Session Close (#thesuccubusclub): Wed Jan 29 20:06:59 2003 |