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Flipley | Hey Matt |
MattH | Hiya Flipley |
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Flipley | Hi David |
impalergeneral | Hi there |
MattH | Hi Impaler |
impalergeneral | Hello there. So, Flipley, have you developed your PBP pix? |
Flipley | Been working 12 hours days upon return...have to take them in tomorrow |
impalergeneral | Wow! Those are long days! |
Flipley | 8-8 |
impalergeneral | what do you mean 8-8? |
Flipley | 8am to 8 pm |
MattH | Ouch - I've done that. No fun. |
Flipley | Earning OT for my Euro trip |
impalergeneral | Hmmm. The last time I did that, I was cracking crab at the height of crab fishing season at a processing plant |
Flipley | I'm in my office, not quite as rigorous lol |
Flipley | leaves me time for this lol |
impalergeneral | Lucky you. Say, I tried to enter my post in the Bronze beta yesterday, but it kept rejecting my posts. I sent an e-mail to the administrator, but I have the feeling I may be forced to move elsewhere |
Flipley | haven't had a problem, but I don't post there often |
impalergeneral | Well, I keep getting a note saying I'm not authorized to post there, and if the administrator decides not to answer my e-mail, I just hpe CityofAngel.com will put up with me |
Flipley | that's strange...did you get any warnings about inappropriate posts prior to this? |
impalergeneral | nope. They never sent me any complaints. This happened before with TV Without Pity, but they decided to give me another chance, and I'll try to be more careful somehow |
impalergeneral | I'm just not surprised when someone decides to freeze me out of an internet posting board without warning. I just think I've been a BB vet for so long, they should at least tellme why they want me to nevr darken their board again |
Flipley | I wonder if the Bronze is about you busting into the PBP Saturday night...lol |
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Flipley | hi HS |
MattH | Hi Hiddensky |
hiddensky | Hi. Finally remembered to tune in and log on in time. :) |
impalergeneral | Well, Flipley, it probably is, but I would never have gotten inside if one of the guests hadn't given me her guest pass. That's how it happened. But if they decide they don't want me back, that's the way it goes |
MattH | Definitey don't want Kitty to change the ending. |
impalergeneral | hello, hiddensky |
MattH | No Kitty Torture :_( |
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Marlowe | hey guys! |
impalergeneral | Hello to Marlow |
impalergeneral | Marlowe, that is |
Flipley | hi cm |
hiddensky | hi, Marlowe |
MattH | Hiya CM |
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impalergeneral | Oh, CM, my review of "Get It Done" is on my website. It gies my opinion about how Buffy may have made the right decision |
Marlowe | I think she made the right decision too |
Marlowe | hi Matt |
MattH | I was just getting to like Angel again, and then they take it off for 2 weeks |
Marlowe | i thought no new eps until March |
HiddenSky | Yeah, the hiatus is killing me. Although the weirdness of spoilers for 4x18 is doing the same. :P |
impalergeneral | Yeah, I mean, take a look at what Angel's Fang gang did. That proves the Proto-WC, who is too much like the modern one, hust doesn't get it. |
impalergeneral | or just doesn't get it |
MattH | or 3 weeks, ;-) |
impalergeneral | or just "Slayers" |
impalergeneral | irate listeners? Nobody doesn't like K and C! |
MattH | The irate person last week was in the class - I don't think she was a listener. |
impalergeneral | that proves my point! |
impalergeneral | hmmm....maybe K and C should notice that "Buffy" is borrowing an idea from Angel (Wood/Holtz) and vice versa (reviving angelus/making Buffy more powerful and less human) |
Flipley | borrowing or paralleling? |
Marlowe | Wood isn't quite as bad as Holtz yet, but he is getting there |
MattH | I don't think they have made Buffy more powerful - she had the opportunity and turned it down. |
impalergeneral | come to think of it, Buffy borrowed both of them from Angel |
impalergeneral | OK, paralleling. That's what I said before in my review. |
impalergeneral | Besdies, if Buffy got that extra power, she would mourn her friends even less...or not at all (even Dawn), and may eventually be worse than the First |
MattH | I was just getting to like Angel again, and then they take it off for 2 weeks |
MattH | We don't know what would have happened if she had taken the extra power. |
Marlowe | I'm not sure what they're doing with Anya now |
impalergeneral | Well, blame the WB. They don't have any faith that "Angel" canhold up against "The Batchelorette"..and how can a blue-masked Lone ranger be better than Angel? |
Marlowe | she seems to be regressing |
Marlowe | I saw a promo clip of the Lone Ranger |
MattH | I wonder if Anya will survive the season... |
Marlowe | they think westerns are how now? |
Marlowe | how=hot |
impalergeneral | well, if you know what Emma Caufield's plans are for the future, you already know |
HiddenSky | Good point, MattH..wouldn't be shocked if she didn't |
MattH | Westerns can be good... but you need *good* actors and writing. |
impalergeneral | and that may not be in this Lone ranger movie |
HiddenSky | well, yeah, but they could've found another way to write her out...but I could see her dying |
Marlowe | I know she been kinda wanting to get out of the acting thing |
MattH | She is? I though she just wanted out of the role... |
impalergeneral | what does she want to do? |
Marlowe | I'm not sure, I don't think she has said specifically |
impalergeneral | all right... a more positive Sarah MacLaughlin song to end a season |
MattH | End the season on a positive song - definitely a sign of the end of the world ;-) |
HiddenSky | lol, yeah, not like Season 2 (I'd be bawling right now if they were playing that) |
Marlowe | speaking of Anya |
HiddenSky | if she dies, my guess is her "purpose" brings about her death |
MattH | Candy saying real nice things about Dawn.... another sign of the Apocalypse... |
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impalergeneral | Well, maybe dawn will have a power...it's overdue |
MattH | Probably will turn out to be an expert lockpicker ... |
HiddenSky | lol |
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MattH | WB CM |
Marlowe | sorry about that...had to reboot the computer |
impalergeneral | yes, hi there |
impalergeneral | are you on Win 98? |
MattH | Willow was useful long before she was a witch. |
impalergeneral | yeah, but Willow can't put the First in a file, and hit "delete"...say, that might work |
impalergeneral | bu tthen the First would undelete itself, so.... |
MattH | Use the internet to hypnotize everyone so they can't see or hear the first. |
Marlowe | yes I am |
HiddenSky | heh, 404: First not Found |
MattH | Hmmm, maybe the first is actually Bill Gates |
HiddenSky | I could buy into that... Bill Gates=Evil |
Marlowe | checking out an emma caulfield site |
Marlowe | looking for articles...the most recent thing i've found is a chat transcript the end of January |
MattH | Angel didn't fight as well when he was Buffy-whiped (to quote Spike) |
impalergeneral | how about when he went into Clint eastwood mode whenhe "fired" his staff? |
MattH | He fought really well then |
impalergeneral | Well, maybe Buffy should be like Angel in Clint eastwood mode. That's the best of both worlds (somewhere between angel and angelus) |
MattH | Certainly he would be more interesting. |
impalergeneral | Well, Buffy was like that, too, in season two. |
MattH | Did Wood know about Dawn |
impalergeneral | As for Wood, well, I think he can be talked out of killing Spike..and the First would want to prevent that |
Marlowe | probably not |
Marlowe | he wouldn't be able to survive a fight with Spike, i think |
impalergeneral | It's not like Holtz. Spike doesn't know who Wood really is, but it will give him pause when he does |
Marlowe | I don't think he's fought many vampires |
MattH | Who, Wood? |
impalergeneral | he said he did, while a watcher trained him |
Marlowe | yeah |
MattH | Some - he said that he had never fought 2 at once. |
impalergeneral | He's...what, 35? I'd think he nailed at least 50 |
Marlowe | in the ep First Date |
Marlowe | perhaps not vampires of Spike's age |
HiddenSky | That would be sad if he had more experience than Wesley did upon arrival in Sunnydale, but not surprising |
impalergeneral | well, a vamp is a vamp. He does know what to do,and could have gotten into the Watching Game if the WC knew about him |
impalergeneral | Wesley was fresh out of the academy. he didn't know squat about Slaying...not in real life, that is |
MattH | Wesley had only faced 2 vampires, and those were under "controlled conditions" |
Marlowe | didn't have much reaction to news that the WC was gone |
impalergeneral | he does now, of course, because being with Angel is a more effective education. He could "watch" Faith, if she needed it. |
MattH | Well, she would need someone good at the "book-learning." I like Faith, but I just can't see her as research gal. |
impalergeneral | Maybe no one is weeping for the WC because no one liked the management style...apparently invensted by those Shadow guys |
HiddenSky | That's a dynamic I'm eager to see...Faith seeing the "new" Wes |
Marlowe | Wood is going to get one heckuva education |
impalergeneral | or give one |
Marlowe | I'm presuming he's been pretty much a loner in the slaying business |
MattH | At least he didn't get turned into a puppet. |
impalergeneral | but if you mean getting "education" about vengenace, I agree. maybe he ca teach it to the Gypsies who cursed Angel |
Marlowe | the only problem I had with the shadow play thing was the chains |
MattH | Yeah - shoulda been ropes. |
Marlowe | no forges back them |
Marlowe | them=then |
MattH | Didn't realize that until *you* brought it up, though... |
Marlowe | someone else brought it up as well |
impalergeneral | Well, they see the Slayer as a weapon, or as I put it...they get a girl to kill the vanpires--so they don't have to. That idea alone is where they went wrong. You teach a Slayer, and help her do the job until she can do it herself. |
Marlowe | they also mention the book was in Sumerian and the Old Guys were speaking Swahili |
MattH | I must have missed that post. |
MattH | The book must have been written after the creation of the slayer. |
impalergeneral | well, it must have been passing down oral history |
Marlowe | otherwise, I thought the shadow play was cool |
impalergeneral | the guys were speaking Swahili so that we fans wouldn't notice |
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MattH | Hello Amy |
Amy_Madison | EEPPP!!!! I almost forgot again |
Amy_Madison | hi |
Marlowe | hi Amy |
impalergeneral | Hi amy |
HiddenSky | hi amy |
Amy_Madison | hey |
Amy_Madison | at least I did'nt miss Kitten Torture |
MattH | No matter how much power they have, it won't be enough. |
MattH | No Kitty Torture tonight |
MattH | And I am *not* joking :( |
impalergeneral | I agree. The chance Buffy was given would wind up destroying her. |
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Amy_Madison | maybe buffy's turning into 'W |
impalergeneral | Maybe she already has the power, and is just reluctant to use it...which puts her ni the same boat as willow |
MattH | Hi Bob |
impalergeneral | hellow bob Dean |
Marlowe | first time here Bob Dean? |
HiddenSky | Something may happen that'll make her really wish she had it, but I think she made the right choice because it would've consumed her |
HiddenSky | hi bob |
impalergeneral | Buffy was pretty bad *ss when she had to be in the early days. Maybe she has to recall that |
Amy_Madison | might be another reason Faith is goming in |
impalergeneral | well, there's a Slayer who doesn't care. She might fit the bill |
MattH | Got to disagree with K&C - the First Evil doesn't seem to have *any* power. |
Amy_Madison | not on it's own |
impalergeneral | It just has to exploit what's in others. Maybe it can die due to being ignored |
impalergeneral | but then the big Demon army will pay attention to the First |
Amy_Madison | Giles has say that in the beginning |
MattH | That's why they should focus on people who the first could influence. Making everyone else blind and deaf to the first could effectively neutralize it. |
Amy_Madison | piccies = good |
Amy_Madison | scanning piccies = really good |
impalergeneral | but that's not much of a battle. no one will ever think of that |
MattH | Sort of like Glorie's weakness was covered up by the fact that no one could remember it. |
impalergeneral | again, maybe Buffy already has the power to win. She just has to tap into it, and accept what she'll be by doing so. Same for willow..and they both must say they did what they had to do. |
impalergeneral | Andrew the "guestage" |
impalergeneral | he's doomed |
MattH | Either him or Xander. |
impalergeneral | noooooooo....they wouldn't dare kill xander! |
MattH | I hope not. |
HiddenSky | I don't think they'll kill Xander. He's the heart of the group and it would be a big blow if they did. |
Marlowe | anyone but Spike |
HiddenSky | (Of course, they've killed Buffy, so what am I saying? *shrug* *wink*) |
MattH | Or Spoke could Shansu |
Marlowe | I've noticed that Buffy has been looking particularly good lately |
impalergeneral | You know, "Entertainment Weekly" didn't like this episode...but then the review was written by someone who doesn't know the show |
MattH | Re: killing Buffy - been there, done that. Been there, done that. |
Marlowe | Spoke? Spike's Evil Twin? |
HiddenSky | lol |
impalergeneral | Buffy should live, but maybe be too scared to Slay because it makes her feel unclean...unless Angel snaps her out of it. That's an idea |
Amy_Madison | Spiky = Spike + Kitty |
Amy_Madison | that's better |
MattH | My guess is that Buffy will somehow lose her powers, correcting the imbalance in the Slayer line. |
impalergeneral | The only thing wrong about that idea, MattH, is that she'll be killed off by a vampire 30 seconds later--and I don't want to see that |
MattH | She is beginning to sound more like Giles in pushing the SITs, so she and he could be instrumental in rebuilding the Watchers council. |
impalergeneral | I would like her to stay in the Slaying game as a Watcher,and maybe be a pretty good Slayer anyway. |
HiddenSky | Yeah, I don't think Buffy can go to being a "regular" person. |
impalergeneral | because she shouldn't be. Otherwisem, she wouldn't be Buffy |
MattH | Being a Watcher is *not* being a regular person. |
MattH | But she'd have to develop a British accent. |
impalergeneral | unless you get a job that provides a paycheck |
HiddenSky | but it's not the high octane life she's been leading...the slayer essence is part of who she is |
impalergeneral | watchers don't equal brits. No one says it has to be |
MattH | That was a joke ;-) |
HiddenSky | I mean, she loses her powers and works at Doublemeat Palace? Don't think so. |
impalergeneral | OK, but I'd like to see watchers of all races and creeds |
MattH | It may be that the WC still has assets elsewhere. Giles would likely know. |
MattH | Of course they do. I doubt Sam Zambuto was British. |
MattH | Although it is possible. |
impalergeneral | Yeah, he may have been jamaican |
impalergeneral | or frmo the Bahamas |
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MattH | Hiya NJP |
HiddenSky | hi, njp |
NJP | Hey Matt |
MattH | Nice posts on the mailing list. |
NJP | Hi guys |
Marlowe | hi NJP |
NJP | thanks |
NJP | lots of good stuff this ep |
Marlowe | yup |
MattH | Yeah on both BTVS and Angel |
Marlowe | should be more good stuff coming up on Angel |
NJP | I opined on the list this that I think the army of ubervamps and the sun blotting may be connected |
impalergeneral | Hi, NJP. You're becoming quite the commentator |
MattH | Well, Faith...duh... (channeling inner Cordelia) ;-) |
MattH | I think the FE may be behind what is happening in LA as well. |
impalergeneral | Well, despite the fact there is a connection, it's something the WB is trying not to mention |
impalergeneral | or it's an evil being that may become the FE's wife |
MattH | I don't think the FE has a gender. |
NJP | thanks. I think that they have two separate stories that can be "connected" in an indirect way |
NJP | (Possible Spoiler) |
Marlowe | they better be connected |
impalergeneral | well, its gender can ge negotiated |
NJP | Gina Torres is going to be doing some Angel eps |
impalergeneral | I heard about that. Just don't tell us who she could be. I have a guess, but I won't mention it here. |
NJP | Agreed |
impalergeneral | It's connected to last week's show, right? |
NJP | Yup |
impalergeneral | Ooooooookay! That may explain what has happened |
NJP | I think that Willow's upcoming appearance on Angel may involve catching the LA crew up on Sunnydale Events and vice versa |
HiddenSky | yeah, I think there's an indirect connection between the two plotlines |
Marlowe | I hope so |
NJP | If the sun eventually goes black all over the world then the ubervamps could rampage at will |
Marlowe | it would be one heckuva coincidence |
impalergeneral | Well, I am guessing Buffy wil have just reruns next month while Angel has new episodes. that way, they'll both be at the same level of the story by April |
MattH | Not too mention that they may need someone who has a better track record at casting spells... which I never would have thought I would say about Willow. |
HiddenSky | it's one of those "non-crossover" crossovers...with crossovers :) |
impalergeneral | I have some idea what Willow will do. Think "early Buffy history" |
Marlowe | Angel is supposed to appear on the last ep of Buffy |
impalergeneral | or sort of early |
NJP | And we have Faith crossing over as well |
NJP | Lots of plot opportunity for folks in LA and Sunnydale to coordinate things |
impalergeneral | He should appear more often than that for a more effective crossover |
MattH | I don't like too many crossovers. |
Marlowe | I hate for it to be a token appearance |
NJP | The trick, creatively here, is to have two relatively independent stories that share a connection. |
impalergeneral | same here. That's why I've ben pushing for a six to 13 part miniseries to wrap up both shows |
Marlowe | post anywere NJP? |
MattH | Well, Angel is already connected to the FE. |
NJP | these days just on the succubus club mailing list |
NJP | I used to do the Voy Boards but I am going spoiler free this year |
Marlowe | ah |
NJP | And damn glad of it |
impalergeneral | I usually visit the Bronze beta, but it's been rejecting my posts lately |
Marlowe | really? |
Marlowe | what's been happening? |
NJP | Reminds me. The writers usually log in the night after. Wonder if Petrie is hanging out tonight? |
HiddenSky | At the Bronze Beta? No posts so far. |
impalergeneral | Well, all I know is that I get a note saying I am not authorized to post at the Beta. Otherwise, i would have told people my review was ready. If I am banned, they should have told me. |
impalergeneral | If I am banned, well, it was fun while it lasted. |
NJP | He hasn't been around a lot lately, I think. I heard he's into movie script writing these days |
Marlowe | that's odd |
NJP | Just write the webmaster and ask. Could be a mistake |
impalergeneral | Only that I didn't get a warning |
impalergeneral | I did. he hasn't answered my e-mail. I have apologized for anything I may have done. It may not help |
impalergeneral | If I never get an explanation, well, again, it was fun while it lasted |
impalergeneral | By the way, Cm, again, thanks for the CD |
Marlowe | no problem, |
NJP | I'm not much for the Bronze Beta (or the old Bronze) I got to the show later and never really liked the linear board |
Marlowe | you e-mailed artie? |
Marlowe | how about phoenix |
impalergeneral | no, I e-mailed "admin@bronzebeta.com" Isn't that artie? |
NJP | the kids seem to be really bothered by that audience member who got all hinky about Buffy |
Marlowe | I'm not sure, I've never tried contacting either of them |
Flipley | feh, they're over it now lol |
impalergeneral | No, I didn't do that. Again, though, I'm just afraid I'm persona non grata anyway, and if there is no recourse, then I accept it |
NJP | Really. Ought to read Television Without Pity. Now there are some folks who *detest* Buffy |
impalergeneral | You bet...and the great thing is you can detest other shows out there |
Flipley | They don't write about the ideas, and they're not as funny as they used to be at TWoP |
Flipley | so it's no fun reading their snarkiness anymore |
NJP | In order to write really effective funny snark, you have to like the show on some level |
impalergeneral | Well, just be less snarky and more straightforward |
MattH | I used to like TV Without Pity - but the Buffy I watch seems to be very different from the one they watch. |
NJP | they used to but it has changed and they don't like it anymore |
NJP | which is their privelege but they shouldn't be writing a snark column |
impalergeneral | Maybe they want Buffy to be Bufframbo, and they'll love her again |
MattH | I still like their Smallville recaps |
NJP | because it comes across as just whining and bile |
NJP | the Angel recaps are funny and snarky |
Marlowe | David , try artie@bronzebeta.com |
impalergeneral | They seem to realy be more snarky about Gilmore Girls, but they are worried about what Rory's "nemesis", Paris, will do |
HiddenSky | it really depends on the recapper |
MattH | Sometime the Angel ones are good. Which I think is strange considering that I think it is the weaker of the 2 shows. |
Marlowe | or phoenix@bronzebeta.com |
NJP | Agreed |
NJP | The recapper who does Angel, likes Angel |
Marlowe | I rarely read the Angel/Buffy recaps |
impalergeneral | I will, CM, but I don't think now is the time. If I am "not authorized" at this time, then I just just lurk at the Beta, not post |
NJP | The two recappers who do Buffy, Ace and Sep, are locked in the High School Years |
NJP | and hate everything since Grad Day II |
Flipley | very true |
Marlowe | I do go to the Buffy forums |
NJP | I used to do limericks over there |
Flipley | someone pays for limericks? lol |
NJP | they have a sometime thread |
Marlowe | I do think the moderators over at TWoP are cracking down harder lately |
NJP | most of them are pretty awful. |
impalergeneral | I think I know why I am persona non grata at the BB. I won't mention it, but if they are that angry at me, then I will stay out. |
MattH | I've never posted on the forums, but I used to read them. Then they banned some people I liked and I gave up. |
Flipley | It's because you're a rebel, David lol |
Marlowe | I don't think you were the only on David |
impalergeneral | Yes, the moderator sat TWOP are a tough bunch. That's why I would rather be straightforward in my reviews, or they may kick me out of there, too |
NJP | I used to get on Usenet. Then I got into a running battle with some one named Sarah T. |
NJP | on alt.tv.buffy |
NJP | Another one who couldn't get past season 3 |
MattH | I know of her... usenet used to have some good Buffy posters, but I don't read them much anymore. |
impalergeneral | Well, season three is the summit for me on Buffy, but there's a lot to say about what happened afterwards |
impalergeneral | and what is to come |
NJP | The show has changed and evolved. It isn't what it was. If people don't like that, it is understandable |
HiddenSky | I think S3 was definitely some of the best, but what's happened since isn't chicken feed. |
NJP | just dont hang around complaining that it *isnt* what it was....it isn't supposed to be |
MattH | I have like all the seasons. Season 2 & 3 are my favorites, but I would but 5 was very close. |
Marlowe | anyone here know a lot about Animal House? |
MattH | Not a lot ... I haven't watched it in years. |
impalergeneral | Toga! Toga! |
NJP | 6 years of college down the drain! |
Marlowe | I'm seeing a comment comparing Kennedy to Neidermyer |
impalergeneral | I've seen that film a few times....Neidermeyer, DEAD! |
MattH | You're all worthless and week. |
NJP | Well, inasmuch as The Master was played by the fellow who was Niedermeyer.... |
impalergeneral | I don't think Kennedy the SiT is as uptight as Neidermeyer |
MattH | I remember Neidermeyer more from Twisted Sister videos than I do from Animal House. |
Marlowe | he's that guy? |
Flipley | she's not uptight at all....she was just enjoying her power last night until she realized she didn't know what she was up against |
impalergeneral | yeah, then he becomes a heck of a vampire guy! |
NJP | Mark Metcalf |
NJP | I think Kennedy was written a little shallowly last night |
impalergeneral | some are expecting her to be like Faith and turn against Buffy...even though Amy Madison has already done that |
HiddenSky | it was so hard to like her last night |
MattH | I think Kennedy is a little shallow. She hasn't been through the fire like the rest of scoobies. |
impalergeneral | well, if Kennedy learns, she'll be OK...or not |
NJP | Well they seem to be bouncing between the "older" Kennedy..necessary to put her into a relationship |
NJP | and "immature" Kennedy which fits more with the SITS |
Flipley | Um, you can be "older" and still immature lol |
Flipley | esp. in that situation |
impalergeneral | well, that explains "Old School" |
HiddenSky | All those writers and K&C didn't meet Drew Goddard? Or have they just not gotten to him yet? |
impalergeneral | c'mon, Joss has a kid now. He's busy...yet he SHOULD be on the show |
HiddenSky | oh, there's my answer, LOL |
NJP | Flip, definite true but they need to find that in the character |
Marlowe | Drew Goddard was HOT |
HiddenSky | I've seen the pics, he does look like a hottie! (I had a PBP ticket but couldn't make it to LA. :( ) |
Marlowe | are you a Minion? |
HiddenSky | #52 :) |
impalergeneral | Gee, you missed a lot. It was my first visit to Hollywood...and it's pretty interesting! |
NJP | I was in LA in the summer. Did the Buffy location Grand Tour |
HiddenSky | I was hoping some family members would help me out, but no one had the $ for my plane ticket. :P Driving from PA would've taken longer and cost as much in the long run. |
Marlowe | sorry to hear that Sky |
impalergeneral | what I should have done was visit a "fun run at Hollywood Boulevard that had lots of one-hit wonder bands |
NJP | What part of PA, Sky? |
HiddenSky | I was in LA this summer for a weekend and was really hoping I'd make it back..hopefully I'll make it to a PBfP one of these days. |
HiddenSky | I'm from suburban Philly, currently attending Penn State. |
NJP | Happy Valley |
NJP | I used to be a PSU fan. |
HiddenSky | Yup! :) |
NJP | Now I am an OSU fan |
Marlowe | there might be PBfP in New York |
HiddenSky | Grr... (Ohio State, right? Not Oklahoma State?) |
impalergeneral | Candy got a free Season two DVD set?? |
Marlowe | There is a group of Burgh Bronzrs |
NJP | Yep. I used to live in NE PA |
NJP | Now I'm in the home of the Buckeyes |
HiddenSky | Yeah, I'll have to ask around about the Burgh Bronzers since State College is a bit closer to there as well as the South Jersey contingent. NYC would work, too. |
NJP | She runs a radio show. I'm surprised that they arent showered with this stuff |
Marlowe | you go to the beta? |
Flipley | An internet radio show lol |
Marlowe | or at least lurk there? |
HiddenSky | Who are you asking? Moi? |
Marlowe | yes |
NJP | Pie Reminds me. Going to the Vulkon thing in Cleveland in april and some folks on the mailing list were thinking about doing a pie thing |
Marlowe | I'm going to the Vulkon thing too |
NJP | Are you on the mailing list? |
Marlowe | don't think so |
NJP | We should put something out there soon |
HiddenSky | Yeah, I was AWOL for a few weeks prior to the PBP, though, as the disappointment was setting in. I've posted a few times since then, though, once it became inevitable I wasn't going on Saturday. |
NJP | Yahoo kitty and candy group |
Marlowe | you might try getting a hold of OldManFan at the beta |
NJP | Once again Angel gets the short shrift |
Marlowe | I believe he's one of the burg bronzers and can get you more info |
HiddenSky | it was a good Angel ep, too...oh, well |
impalergeneral | great, five minutes to comment on the ending of last week's show |
NJP | Hey, after 7.22 they may have nothing but Angel to talk about |
impalergeneral | I'll say. |
HiddenSky | I think I saw one of his posts mentioning the Burgh Bronzers earlier..I'll look into it |
NJP | There was an internet story (EW) with a Boreanaz interview where they implied that this season was it |
impalergeneral | yest some UPN officials are claiming they can get SMG to do another season on a part-time basis |
Marlowe | I saw that.... |
impalergeneral | you mean for Angel? Well, the WB's programming departent is to blame for that |
NJP | I think UPN picks it up in a hot minute |
NJP | especially if they get a spinoff from Buffy |
impalergeneral | not to mention the end of W and H, it seems, and what SciFi Wire is saying will happen soon. |
NJP | This isnt a loser like "Roswell" |
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MattH | Well, since between the two shoes they will have 11 years worth of programming. |
Flipley | lol |
NJP | I liked that show in the first season |
NJP | pains me to think of how they screwed it up |
impalergeneral | Again, guys, Joss should give up a final mini-series to wrap up both Buffy and Angel next season, then set up the "new blood" to take over |
impalergeneral | or give us same mini-series |
NJP | There is a distinct possiblity that Whedon may not be *on* tv at all next year |
HiddenSky | UPN isn't in a good boat right now, though |
NJP | scary, huh? |
impalergeneral | That'll drive him nuts. Maybe he'll direct his newborn kid |
HiddenSky | Latest news is that UPN's loss of Disney kids programming diminishes their network status so they're not even on WB's netlet level |
Marlowe | well, there is that spinoff that keeps being bandied about |
MattH | Well, I'd miss Buffy, but I never got into Firefly, and Angel I can take or leave... it wouldn't affect me much either way. |
impalergeneral | namely the one with faith, huh? If they do that, I just hope she isn't "on the run", but just someone who prefers to "wander around". |
impalergeneral | then she can set up shop in Boston with her new watcher...kate Lochley |
NJP | UPN seems to be trying to get back to what worked for them before the WWF (excuse me, the WWE) thing with shows like Abby. |
NJP | That might preclude going into more of the genre stuff |
HiddenSky | UPN's lacking a coherent vision right now...not enough programming to forge their identity |
impalergeneral | wouldn't it be strange if the WB winds up airing any Buffy spinoff? |
NJP | Well, the guy who drove Buffy off the WB, Jamie Kellner just resigned from AOL/Time Warner |
impalergeneral | UPN is actually CBS jr. if Viacom decides to close doen UPN, it would do so without a tear |
NJP | I think Les Moonves wants UPN to be the rebroadcast network for CBS |
impalergeneral | he also ruined wrestling, but it's just as well |
Marlowe | I still like Smackdown |
MattH | It wasn't so much him driving Buffy off, is that UPN was willing to pay a lot more per episode. |
NJP | Kellner had the power to match any UPN offer but chose not to |
NJP | (He was the WB president at the time) |
HiddenSky | Viacom needs to make up their mind, then - netlet or an outlet like ABC Family or FX for the parent network |
impalergeneral | Because Gilmore Girls are better |
NJP | The success of this instant repeat business has yet to prove out |
MattH | Angelus is awesome. |
impalergeneral | UPN could merge with TNN, which would really be bad |
NJP | 24 worked mostly because people had to tune in if they missed the original broadcast |
HiddenSky | The Buffy/Abby commercials crack me up. I applaud them for even trying to bundle the two into one ad campaign. |
impalergeneral | you mean Lorne is EVIL? |
NJP | I am convinced that Angelus isnt really here |
HiddenSky | I think Lorne read what he saw...I point back to Cordy's line about leaving it all behind in the cage..I think the spell was designed to trigger the loss of his soul once he left the cage. |
impalergeneral | That's an idea, sky |
HiddenSky | Angel was his old delegating self in the cage...he was jumpy when trying to cover when he went upstairs. |
MattH | HiddenSky - I didn't think of that. That is a good idea. |
NJP | Then again, if the FE could wipe memories, it could cause Loren to misread Angel |
HiddenSky | So, I'm convinced he did regain the soul temporarily. |
HiddenSky | Angel also had the line about it being temporary. |
impalergeneral | He did say he wasn't sure how long the spell would last |
MattH | So, did the soul return to the Mor-Ping? |
impalergeneral | My guess is the Mor-Ping will be cracked, and they'll have to recover the soul in another way....which involves calling someone from Sunnydale |
HiddenSky | That's my guess, too. |
impalergeneral | It's predictable, really |
MattH | They mentioned that the Orb of Thesallah is needed for free souls... |
NJP | convenient plot point: if the soul was out there in the ether then they could just get an Orb and return it |
NJP | this way, they cant |
NJP | they have to find the bottle o'soul |
HiddenSky | Yeah, soul in a jar |
MattH | Yup. It may be out there now and they don't know it. After all, they asked the shaman *before* they did Cordy's spell, which may have released the soul from the jar. |
NJP | Logically, one would be suspicious of Cordy as the bottle thief |
impalergeneral | Yeah, it may have zapped into Angel..and Cordevious probably is the soul thief |
NJP | Except that if Cordy is channelling the FE, then why wouldn't she just destroy it |
NJP | Then again, I could see Wes hiding it from the others in his protective watcher way |
HiddenSky | But why would Wes hide it then go through all that to try and restore the soul, etc. when Angelus clearly leaves them in danger? (But he's not the only dangerous one.) |
NJP | It was originally Wes's idea. He may have suspected a mole. |
NJP | Bring back Lindsey! |
MattH | God, someone should have |
impalergeneral | I'll say. I mean, does he have a thriving legal practice...despite an old truck? |
impalergeneral | Well, til next time....http://www.geocities.com/impalergeneral |
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MattH | The PTB have never provided detailed information on how to accomplish something... just warnings. That should have been a red flag. |
NJP | Yeah, I'm out of here |
NJP | Night all |
Marlowe | night all! |
MattH | CYA next week |
| Session Close (#thesuccubusclub): Wed Feb 19 20:06:08 2003 |