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| *** Topic of #thesuccubusclub: Welcome to The Succubus Club {http://www.thesuccubusclub.com}, Kitty and Candy talking about Buffy and Angel. {http://www.klbc.org} The Buffy afterglow!!! |
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| impalergeneral | Hi Matt |
| MattH | Hiya impaler |
| impalergeneral | we must be early for the Faith Fest |
| MattH | Yeah |
| impalergeneral | Did you buy last week's EW with the Buffy cover? |
| MattH | No - downloaded the images. |
| impalergeneral | I was very surprised how quickly people scanned it. I just built a new web page with a summary, some major quotes from SMG, and some comments on what will happen next. I called it "ByeByeBuffy". |
| MattH | So where is everyone? |
| impalergeneral | Good question....unless they built a new chat room |
| MattH | Doubt it - there would have been an announcement on the list. |
| impalergeneral | yeah, that was a joke. I would think the others would want to talk Faith..unless they're looking at their old Faith eps |
| impalergeneral | I just hope they don't kill off Faith. I mean, Eliza needs an option in case that "time travel" pilot doesn't work out |
| MattH | Two people I don't want to see killed - Dawn & Faith. |
| MattH | Especially as a spinoff may be delayed for a little while. |
| impalergeneral | Ditto. Make a spinoff with those two, plus Spike and Wesley |
| MattH | Mixed feelings about Spike. I think the whole "souled vampire" thing has been done to death. Also, one of the rumors I have heard why Eliza turned down a spinoff is she didn't want to do a F/S pairing. |
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| impalergeneral | Yay, marloew! |
| impalergeneral | oops, I mean marlowe |
| Marlowe | hey guys! |
| Marlowe | I wish they would have Angel on another night |
| MattH | Hiya CM |
| MattH | I dled Angel, but haven't watched it yet ;) |
| Marlowe | hey matt |
| impalergeneral | Well, putting it back on Sundays might help |
| Marlowe | it will be on in an hour for me |
| Marlowe | I watched Five by Five and Sanctuary last night |
| Marlowe | getting into that Faith mood |
| MattH | Question is not what day Angel will be on...but whether it will be on next season. |
| impalergeneral | Yu are not kidding! The Lone Ranger instead of Angel last week...even if Tonto's sister was cute? |
| impalergeneral | I think the next two weeks will tell us one way or another. |
| MattH | Didn't watch the Lone Ranger - any good? |
| Marlowe | i didn't even bother watching the Lone Ranger |
| impalergeneral | Same here. |
| Marlowe | I've heard the network suits still interested in Angel |
| Marlowe | so it sounds like it should get renewed |
| MattH | Depends on ratings... |
| Marlowe | I'm keeping my fingers crossed though |
| MattH | And what they do after the Faith arc. |
| impalergeneral | Well, that's what they've been saying...but things could change. I would believe the WB cared about Angel if they didn't waste half the sweeps month |
| Marlowe | I'm really wondering what they'll do after Faith leaves |
| impalergeneral | For example, they could have shown the end of "Birds of Prey" now, instead of two weeks ago |
| impalergeneral | Well, the real issue is if Angel's Fang Gang will still have faith in him even after they got a front row seat to his dark side |
| Marlowe | I only watched an ep or two of Birds of Prey |
| impalergeneral | If they don't have that faith, then he'll be left alone |
| MattH | Charisma Carpenter said Angel is going in a very different direction next year, which could mean a lot of things. It could have a lot to do with a the ending of BTVS |
| Marlowe | the gang will presume that Angelus killed Lilah? |
| Marlowe | I've heard Joss say essentially the same thing |
| impalergeneral | Well, unless Cordevious stabbed Lilah twice, they may wonder why there's just the one hole in her neck |
| Marlowe | Charisma has said she will take a short maternity leave and come back |
| impalergeneral | That could mean the real Cordelai coudl come back from...wherever she was |
| impalergeneral | because Cordevious is clearly a fake |
| Marlowe | I'm really wondering though. Considering the long hours the actors put in, can Charisma really handling that and take care of a baby? |
| impalergeneral | I am sure Fox will provide some day care for the kid |
| Marlowe | when did Cordy become evil? |
| Marlowe | did she come back 'wrong' like Buffy? |
| impalergeneral | Well, if you mean the real one....that's not her. That's my guess. |
| impalergeneral | or that's really Cordy, only possessed with evil stuff |
| MattH | I don't necessarily think that is her either. |
| MattH | A lot of actresses handle series while having kids - I don't think that is much of a big deal anymore. |
| Marlowe | I hope they thin the ranks a little bit next season on Angel |
| impalergeneral | I think the only ones left will be Angel and Lorne, and maybe Wesley. |
| MattH | Would be a good idea - keep Wesley & Angel. Kill off the rest and add someone new. |
| Marlowe | I want Connor to go first! |
| impalergeneral | don't we all? |
| MattH | Either kill Connor or fix him. He has the potential to be a great character, but they need to figure something for him besides (I hate Angel) |
| Marlowe | yeah, the angry teen bit is way old |
| impalergeneral | Too bad he can't be "reborn" somehow...just leave out the "I just kil Angel" part |
| MattH | Fixing Angel would be nice too - he needs to brood a little more... ;-) |
| Marlowe | or get a soul-cleansing thing |
| impalergeneral | just give Angel a pulse, while he keeps everything else (especially the demony strength) |
| impalergeneral | or is that vampire-y strength? |
| MattH | Too fanfiction-ish |
| impalergeneral | Nah. I think the old excuse of the curse has to be modified somehow. we know he wants to atone, but he should know he'll actually benefit from trynig |
| Marlowe | that curse thing should be done away with |
| impalergeneral | That's why I wish the Gypsy clan who cursed him would come back to try to kill him at first, then decide to keep him on retainer to fight certain major demons. |
| Marlowe | it seems more trouble than what's it's worth |
| Marlowe | it was fine on Buffy, but doesn't really work on Angel |
| MattH | The true happiness thing has run its course - but it was needed to keep him and Buffy from getting together. |
| impalergeneral | After all, the Kalderash is partially responsible for bring back Angelus the first time by not telling Jenny Calendar why it's important Buffy and Angel shouldn't be "too" happy |
| MattH | And probably still is. |
| MattH | I don't think there is much left of that gypsy clan. |
| impalergeneral | There may be a few left, or at least enough to be curious enough abut the curse |
| Marlowe | it will be really neat too see Buffy and Faith together again |
| MattH | Yeah - will there still be the sexual subtext between them? |
| impalergeneral | and Faith would be surprised abut what Buffy had done since "who are you?"..even to the point that Faith finds herself as the "ggod girl" |
| Marlowe | I don't think so |
| impalergeneral | or good girl |
| MattH | Well, Buffy has only killed one human, compared to Faith's two (that we know of) |
| impalergeneral | yeah, but what would Faith think about Buffy hooking up with Spike? |
| MattH | That Buffy is in a rut... |
| impalergeneral | and how they did? |
| impalergeneral | I may be wrong, but maybe Faith may act "holier than thou" for a good three seconds |
| MattH | Nice point K&C make - what will Willow & Faith's relationship be like? After all, Willow has also killed a human and tried to destroy the world to boot. |
| impalergeneral | Actually, that's a good point. Faith may be more likely to act "holier than thou" towards Willow, pointnig out it's sometimes too easy to be bad. |
| impalergeneral | then again, that might scare them BOTH |
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| Marlowe | I don't think Faith had much interaction with Willow |
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| Marlowe | wb matt |
| MattH | Thanks - Trillian was acting screwy. |
| impalergeneral | hiccup on the computer? |
| Marlowe | will Faith remember Dawn? |
| MattH | No comment - I am spoiled... |
| impalergeneral | Now that's a good question. I bet she does...to avoid any serious questions |
| MattH | If so, I'd like to know Dawn's relationship with Faith before she went bad. |
| Marlowe | so would I... |
| impalergeneral | I'm sure Joss and his minions will think of something. I mean, the "reality adjustment" must have included everyone. |
| impalergeneral | when Dawn was "added" |
| MattH | I would still like more on this Key business...I doubt the key was created to destroy the universe and only at one specifice time in the far future. After all, Glory said the key was as almost as old as she was. |
| Marlowe | it must still be important for them to mention it this season |
| Marlowe | if Buffy goes, will Dawn go as well? |
| MattH | Also a good question - technically Buffy is Dawn's guardian. |
| impalergeneral | I don't know....anyone suspect Dawn will sacrifice her life as Buffy sacrificed hers two years ago? |
| MattH | We know something is happening with Dawn - "Buffy won't choose you". I don't think it will be Dawn dying - Joss is seldom that obvious. |
| Marlowe | darn, I was hoping Dawn would turn back into a key |
| MattH | I hope not - I like Dawn ;-) |
| Marlowe | Dawn's been okay this season |
| impalergeneral | I still connect what the alleged ghost of Joyce said with what Cassie told her..."Whatever happens, it's not your fault." |
| Marlowe | Angel should be on soon |
| Marlowe | look forward to reading your review David... |
| Marlowe | see you guys later! |
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| MattH | brb |
| MattH | I'm back |
| impalergeneral | great! |
| impalergeneral | Lucky Ethan! |
| MattH | I haven't bought any of the Watcher's guides... |
| impalergeneral | Really! Do you prefer just having the episodes? |
| MattH | Yeah - and the shooting scripts. |
| impalergeneral | That makes sense. Anyway, http://www.joss-whedon.com is a new site that advertises a new book on Joss that will be released next month. |
| MattH | I heard about that. Not really interested myself. |
| impalergeneral | Didn't SMG talk about "The Batchelor" on Conan last year? |
| MattH | Maybe - I don't watch talk shows. |
| MattH | If Spike doesn't die, maybe he could Shansu... |
| impalergeneral | not before Angel does! |
| MattH | Maybe the prophecy doesn't refer to Angel at all... |
| MattH | It would be a nice twist |
| impalergeneral | Well, if it didn't, then what was "Angel" really about? if it's not about redemption, then it's just "Forever Knight." |
| MattH | Especially if the first's interest in Angel was due to that and it actually referred to Spike. |
| impalergeneral | No, Angel is meant for the "shanshu" |
| MattH | I loved Forever Knight. Didn't get to see the last season. I much prefer Nick Night to Angel. |
| impalergeneral | Well, the final season of "Forver Knight" ended harshly..and I'll just leave it at that |
| MattH | I know how it ended - just didn't have the cable station it was on. |
| impalergeneral | Oh, K and C are upset over why SMG hated season six, huh? |
| MattH | I like the fact that SMG is very in tune with the fans. K&C are totally wrong here. |
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| impalergeneral | Well, SMG at least proved she could do something new and scary...just in time for "bringing" Buffy back. |
| MattH | Hiya Chris |
| Chris1697 | hey matt |
| MattH | Most people don't get sabbaticals. |
| impalergeneral | Hi Chris... |
| Chris1697 | hey impalergeneral |
| impalergeneral | SMG should have just said she was tired, and wanted a rest...period |
| Chris1697 | what yall been talking about |
| MattH | BTVS and Angel ;-) |
| Chris1697 | ha ha... what specificly |
| impalergeneral | but giving up the show for yet another grade-z romantic comedy that makes "How To Lose A Guy in 10 Days" look like "Annie Hall"? |
| MattH | Directions show will be taking, possible spinoffs, SMGs comments re: season 6, what Faith's relationships with the scoobies will be like, etc. |
| impalergeneral | they're just also excited about tonight's "Angel" |
| Chris1697 | so is SMG leaveing |
| MattH | Yep |
| impalergeneral | yup, and Joss has said they're closing it out |
| Chris1697 | WHY!!!!!!!!! |
| impalergeneral | Soshe'll have more time to do Scooby Doo..then come to her senses and get some more substantial roles |
| MattH | She may make some guest appearances in a potential spinoff. |
| Chris1697 | she just want more money... i'll send her money if they wont cancel the show |
| impalergeneral | That's the only justification of a fifth season for Angel..bring Buffy back for the end |
| impalergeneral | and we mean lots of episodes, or about four |
| MattH | I don't think that was it. SMG and Joss have both said that she would like to end the series while it is on top. I can agree, although I am kinda depressed that it is ending. |
| Chris1697 | Angel dosent have much more time lift eaither... for a vampire that dosent age angel is starting to look old |
| Chris1697 | left not lift |
| impalergeneral | Well, that, and the fact that yuo wonder how much the WB is really supporting the show. |
| Chris1697 | so what kind of spin off are they talking about doing now |
| impalergeneral | If they hold back a show during sweeps, that's a bad sign. we know "Dawson's Creek" is on its last legs, but acting as if it likes "Angel" then putting it off the air for three weeks, you have to wonder |
| Chris1697 | however they did move it to a better day of the week |
| impalergeneral | There's lots of possibilities, but I wouldn't be surprised if Joss takes a year off before he makes "Slayers: The New Blood", or whatever it will be called. |
| Chris1697 | who will be in slayer:the...? do you know? |
| impalergeneral | If that is what happens, maybe Eliza will come back as Faith, in case her "time travel show" doesn't work out |
| MattH | I don't think there will be a spinoff next season, except possibly as a midseason replacement. |
| Chris1697 | kewl |
| impalergeneral | I am just suggesting "Slayers: The New Blood" as a title. I have no idea who will be in it. |
| Chris1697 | hey if you want to send an e-mail to the kitty/candy were is the best place to send it |
| impalergeneral | comments@thesuccubusclub.com |
| MattH | A spinoff might not have a slayer at all. |
| impalergeneral | Well, havnig the star of a spinoff as a Watcher (hello, Giles or Wesley) would work |
| Chris1697 | ok... well i email them about something last week and they havent answered me back yet... |
| MattH | Or not be based around the hellmouth... |
| impalergeneral | It takes a while for them to respond to e-mails, but they do |
| MattH | They get tons of e-mail. |
| Chris1697 | did any of yall notice the "cheese man" in the ep not last night but the week before... the new one |
| MattH | I heard about it, but didn't notice it. |
| impalergeneral | Principal Wood will get Holtz's syndrome, thanks to the First |
| Chris1697 | i never understood what he was all about... do yall know |
| MattH | Maybe the spinoff will be centered around the Cheese Man. |
| impalergeneral | Joss says the "Cheese man" doesn't represent anything. |
| MattH | Joss has been known to lie. |
| impalergeneral | It'll be in his bio coming soon to bookstores |
| Chris1697 | he was in the visions that the guys had in mexico |
| Chris1697 | kewl |
| Chris1697 | faith |
| MattH | 19 out of 20 - awesome. Her best score ever... |
| impalergeneral | I think it was 19 of 40 |
| impalergeneral | but still very good |
| MattH | I'll take what I can get - She got 20 out of 25 on the first one I sent in. I still feel the shame of sending her the easiest Kitty Torture (although it was the first sent in by a listener) |
| impalergeneral | At least you made history |
| MattH | Have you heard the song, "History is made by stupid people"? |
| MattH | :( |
| impalergeneral | No I haven't |
| MattH | PIty - it is very funny. I haven't wanted to make history since ;-) |
| impalergeneral | Actually, a bigger worry is "History is written by stupid people" |
| MattH | Well, yeah, but that is not as funny ;-) |
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| MattH | HIya Amy |
| impalergeneral | Hi there, Amy |
| Chris1697 | peace-o, i am going to go and watch angel... ya'll have a good nigh |
| impalergeneral | enjoy! |
| MattH | CYA Chris |
| Amy_Madison | hi |
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| Amy_Madison | almost forgot. been concentation on waiting |
| Amy_Madison | for the return |
| Amy_Madison | mmmmmm FAITH |
| impalergeneral | well, it's an hour away in the Left coast |
| MattH | Yeah. |
| Amy_Madison | just watching Riley leaving |
| Amy_Madison | Eathan |
| Amy_Madison | Ethan |
| Amy_Madison | and then Ethan |
| Amy_Madison | SLUT |
| Amy_Madison | Harlot |
| Amy_Madison | ME' |
| MattH | I am lagging a little. |
| Amy_Madison | damn, I missed the show |
| impalergeneral | Well, there's the download tomorrow |
| MattH | It should be downloadable. |
| impalergeneral | Well, gotta go. http://www.geocities.com/impalergeneral |
| Amy_Madison | I know, soon |
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| MattH | I can send you a copy of the chat transcript if you want. |
| Amy_Madison | thanks. I can never find out how to on this thing |
| MattH | what is your e-mail address? |
| Amy_Madison | taramaclay1@earthlink.net |
| Amy_Madison | thanks again |
| MattH | No problem (I think) ;-) |
| Amy_Madison | ok, I go then now |
| MattH | CYA next week. |
| Amy_Madison | see you next week |
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