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| MattH | Hiya DIYA |
| DeathIsYourArt | Hi Harris. How was work? |
| MattH | Much easier than last week. |
| MattH | How are things at your end of the world? |
| DeathIsYourArt | very good. You were right by the way; I am not getting anywhere near the numbers that Candy got last year for the Golden Fangs |
| MattH | How many so far? |
| DeathIsYourArt | Things are hot and humid...not my type of weather at all. I have a family member in the hospital, and everyone seems to be freaking except me. |
| MattH | Serious? |
| DeathIsYourArt | 110 so far. I have to remind Candy to send out a reminder as a special notice for anyone who has that as their preference for the mailing list |
| DeathIsYourArt | Ya my aunt had 2 heart attacks in a matter of hours. |
| MattH | Ouch. What's the prognosis? |
| DeathIsYourArt | I knew it was coming. She was in the hospital in Feburary for neumonia, and various other problems. And the moment she got out of the hospital she ignored her doctors orders and began smoking again. They are still running tests to be sure fo anything. There is a history in our family of heart problems. Her own son has already had a pacemaker put in |
| MattH | Smoking will do that. My mom smokes...the family has been trying to get her to quit for years. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Ya, we finally got my dad to quit about 3 years ago. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I'm working on my friends now |
| MattH | My mom quit once - after a trip to the hospital with breathing problems. Gave it up for four years...then started smoking again, because she put on weight. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I hate that excuse... one of my other aunts is using that one |
| DeathIsYourArt | So what about all other things on your end? |
| DeathIsYourArt | I haven't heard from LLL about the con yet, and she isn't on ICQ. I hope she remembers tonight |
| MattH | Not much happening on my end of the world. Thought about going to the Reagan library, but the wait times were too long. |
| MattH | I sent a notice to the mailing list right before coming on. |
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| MattH | Hiya CM |
| DeathIsYourArt | I saw the line ups on CNN. You have to really want to pay your respects |
| Elais | heyas Matt, DIYA |
| DeathIsYourArt | HI ELIAS |
| DeathIsYourArt | Elais* he he he sorry |
| Elais | that's okay |
| Elais | how was your weekend? |
| MattH | Busy. I worked Saturday. |
| *** FiatLux (Fiat@1Cust212.tnt14.memphis3.tn.da.uu.net) has joined channel #thesuccubusclub | |
| FiatLux | Hello all |
| DeathIsYourArt | Hello |
| MattH | Hiya Fiat |
| Elais | hi Fiat! |
| FiatLux | Everybody doing OK tonight? |
| Elais | doing alright |
| MattH | Fair to middling. |
| Elais | not sure how much of this Reagan mourning I can stand |
| FiatLux | I've been watching it on and off all afternoon. I feel for Mrs. Reagan. |
| MattH | I practically broke down when I heard he died. |
| MattH | Even though I had been expecting it. |
| FiatLux | Reagan was pretty much THE President while I was growing up. Too young to remember anyone else. |
| Elais | it has definitely been a tough 10 years for her |
| MattH | Carter was the first president I really remember...I initally had a positive impression of him...then it went downhill from their. |
| MattH | Yeah...I really feel for Nancy |
| Elais | amazing how much praise is being lavished by him now |
| Elais | I liked Reagan at the beginning |
| MattH | Reagans mother had Alzheimers, so he knew what was coming...that sucks a lot also |
| Elais | but it went downhill from there |
| Elais | not sure I would consider him a great enough president to put him on the 20 dollar bill |
| MattH | Heh...I don't want him on the 20 dollar bill |
| Elais | funny..I'm remembering Reagan as he was |
| MattH | I want him on Rushmore ;-) |
| Elais | and I look at the candidates we have for prez now |
| FiatLux | He wrote a letter to the nation right after he found out about his illness. |
| MattH | Yep - I've read it. |
| FiatLux | To keep me occupied with all this going on and no Angel, I've decide to learn HTML. I'm not doing so hot. |
| MattH | What is the problem? |
| Elais | I dabbled in html for a short while |
| FiatLux | I have the basics down, but I can't seem to get things to end up where I want them. I've switch around the code all different ways and checked all the tags. I dunno. |
| MattH | Heh - until I installed a weblog, I hand coded all of the html on my website. |
| FiatLux | http://members.surfbest.net/fiatlux@surfbest.net |
| MattH | What exactly are you trying to do? |
| FiatLux | Plus I don't have much to put up on a site. I've been playing around with different extras and such. |
| FiatLux | Mostly the positioning. I think I finally figured out the linking, who knew capitalization was important :) |
| DeathIsYourArt | I need to figure out what to put on my own site...then I'll find the motivation to really learn how to do everything. Without a goal get bored too easily |
| MattH | Capitalization is important depending on the server. Windows servers don't care. Unix/Linux does |
| FiatLux | I'm just using Notepad, maybe I should look into a program that can "teach" me more. |
| FiatLux | I'm using my ISPs pages and it took almost all day yesterday to figure out the capitalization thing. I knew I had the link right. |
| MattH | You really don't need to use all of the statements.... |
| MattH | Also, be careful using not standard fonts. If the end user doesn't have a font, their browser will substitute something. |
| FiatLux | Really? I was just basing it on other pages code. Now you tell me. Yeah I was worried about the font. I was going to go back and use Window's standard fonts |
| FiatLux | I think I'll leave it for now, like Death said, I'll wait till I have more to put up. I did have a friend make me a banner. |
| DeathIsYourArt | ohh what kind of a banner? |
| FiatLux | Surprise surprise, it's a Buffy one. And another like the "PSA" ads I have on there now. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Hey Elias... I don't notice your name on my list. Have you voted in the Golden Fangs yet? |
| FiatLux | Any ideas on what else I can put up or take down. I don't need that Tag board thing, I just saw it on another site and wanted to see how to do it. |
| MattH | Fiat - If you want I can send you "So You Want To Make A Web Page". It is an old tutorial I used when I was first learning HTML. It isn't on the web (in a free version) anymore. |
| FiatLux | Ooh, I voted. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I want it! |
| FiatLux | Yeah Harris, I'd appreciate that. |
| MattH | This is pre-CSS so it is really easy to learn. Cascading Sytle Sheets are a pain. |
| DeathIsYourArt | By the way Harris. I gave up on that Database and decided to just use excel for the tabulation. the database took too much time and I didn't trust it. |
| FiatLux | I have a question. The .html file-- I read that it can be named anything, but unless I call it index.html it doesn't show up. |
| FiatLux | Is that a server thing or what? |
| MattH | Index is generally the file the webbrowser loads first...and yes, it is a server thing. |
| MattH | http://69.169.70.156/WebTutor.zip |
| DeathIsYourArt | And just as a general observation... You would figure that people would get their favorite quotes correct. I wonder how many people are just repeating what others suggest. |
| DeathIsYourArt | And though you put it up for Fait, I say tahnk you for the link anyways |
| MattH | I put it up for all of you who want it. |
| FiatLux | I couldn't think of just one quote, so I didn't even fill that out. |
| FiatLux | What was your all's favorites? |
| MattH | I'd also recommend getting a second browser, just to compare against IE. |
| MattH | "Can I at least deny you 3 times" |
| Elais | hee hee |
| DeathIsYourArt | I have too many too, but I am not voting |
| Elais | "We've never been intimate, cept that one time..." |
| FiatLux | It probably wasn't supposed to be that funny, but I liked when Angel said, "We have a forever love!" |
| MattH | That was funny...I thought that was a shout out to all the slash Fanfic writers out there... |
| Elais | It was definitely a shout out |
| MattH | Or "You're so cute" - Fred to Puppet Angel... loved that |
| Elais | I think James said that Joss really pushed the homoerotic stuff on Angel this year |
| MattH | Really? I didn't notice. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Apparently because it bugged David, and Joss likes to do that |
| MattH | Any news on Andy Hallet? |
| Elais | wee little puppet man |
| Elais | no more news as far as I know |
| DeathIsYourArt | Nothing new on his website |
| Elais | probably still checking him out and determining what treatment he needs to have |
| MattH | Ah well...no news is probably good news. |
| Elais | guess we'll have to wait for official word |
| Elais | plenty of people have been getting 'get well' stuff together |
| Elais | I signed an enormous 'get well' card at Moonlight Rising |
| MattH | How was MR? |
| DeathIsYourArt | yes tell tell |
| Elais | very glad I went |
| Elais | got my picture with James Marsters |
| DeathIsYourArt | Were you thinking of me when you did? |
| Elais | I was able to get very close to the stage for the Common Ro/GoTR concert |
| Elais | when you are hugging James, other people are the last thing in your mind |
| DeathIsYourArt | I don't think I like youanymore |
| * MattH chuckles | |
| Elais | you'll have to hate everyone else at the con too |
| DeathIsYourArt | Fine I'll give you taht |
| Elais | James was in a open mood |
| FiatLux | I've still never been to any con. Maybe in a few years when a middle aged SMG starts doing appearances I'll make one. |
| DeathIsYourArt | One day...when I have money.. |
| Elais | there that oakland con in August |
| Elais | I thought SMG was doing some kind of con promoting 'The Grudge' |
| DeathIsYourArt | Anyone else not caring about that movie at all? |
| MattH | Anyone planning to see "The Grudge?" |
| Elais | San Diego Comic Con |
| FiatLux | I haven't really heard much about The Grudge, just the basics and I've seen some pics. The ones that was linked on the list. |
| Elais | I don't think I'll see it |
| MattH | I'm not, FYI |
| FiatLux | I doubt it. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Elias please continue your report...unless you were too drunk to remember what happened? |
| Elais | don't drink alcohol |
| Elais | I did get a chance to talk to Danny Strong a couple of times |
| FiatLux | Alcohol and Marsters, that's a good combo for me. |
| MattH | DIYA...quit projecting ;-) |
| Elais | I was able to meet most of the GoTR band members |
| FiatLux | Yeah Death, not everyone are lushes! |
| Elais | asked James a question during the Q&A |
| MattH | What was the ? ? |
| Elais | how about James Marsters for Governor of California |
| Elais | I think there is a transcript of the whole Q&A session somewhere |
| DeathIsYourArt | Sure Faitlux ... just me.... you don't find the idea of James and Jack Daniels appealing inthe least |
| Elais | funny you should say Jack Daniels |
| Elais | it was said James had a bit too much Jack Daniels before the concert |
| DeathIsYourArt | I'm all hat and no cat really. I can count the number of times I have had a drink in the past 3 years on one hand |
| MattH | Yeah...but how well do you count them when sober? :) |
| DeathIsYourArt | Elias James doesn't drink anymore from what I have heard |
| DeathIsYourArt | He might have started again |
| DeathIsYourArt | I don't know |
| Elais | I don't think so |
| Elais | James apologized the next day |
| DeathIsYourArt | oh, okay...Bad info then |
| Elais | I hate to speculate on that kind of stuff |
| FiatLux | I haven't had a chance to go out and drink in forever. I've been a homebody these last few months. |
| DeathIsYourArt | When sober it would take two hands Harris. But no more than that |
| MattH | I gave up drinking when I turned 21. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Just when you became legal...not fun anymore huh? |
| FiatLux | Once you're old enough to buy it, it loses it's appeal |
| Elais | rumors spread way too easily on the flimisiest things |
| MattH | Pretty much...plus alcohol is expensive and fattening. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Here I would have already had 3 good years of legal drinking |
| DeathIsYourArt | Yay to Quebecs 18 year olod drinking age |
| MattH | Is there anything else to do in Canada besides drink? |
| DeathIsYourArt | If I can choose who runs my country (they all suck) then I should be able to decide what I do with my own body |
| Elais | curling |
| FiatLux | Heh, heh |
| DeathIsYourArt | Hockey, sex etc.. |
| FiatLux | Drunken curling and hot ice rink sex? |
| DeathIsYourArt | That sounds like fun |
| DeathIsYourArt | We do everythign Americans do...we just do it with better beer |
| MattH | Eh...I definitely don't like beer...another reason I gave up drinking. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I'm not a beer person anymore either. I did when I was a teenager. The moment I got my mixing licence that changed though. |
| FiatLux | I went through a beer phase. I hated it, then didn't drink anything but. |
| MattH | Mixing license? |
| DeathIsYourArt | bartending licence |
| DeathIsYourArt | except spelled correctly |
| MattH | Hmm...I wasn't aware one needed a license to tend bar. My brother did it for a while and I don't recall him needing one. |
| FiatLux | Bartending schools are big around here. I'm not sure if it's a requirement legally though. |
| DeathIsYourArt | you don't actually. All ti really means is that I know how to make all basic (100 or so) drinks. And that I know what glasses they go in and with what. Hotels usually look for it. bars don't. In Ontario I had to get "smart serve" which is a seminar thingy about when to cut people off etc.. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I got all that and have barely been able to use it. I was very popular at residence parties at university though |
| MattH | Can't get a job as a bartender? |
| FiatLux | Oh yeah, my friend got kinda mad though, because all the parties us group of friends had no one ordered anything exotic, so he didn't get to practice much. |
| DeathIsYourArt | When I was at school, I was always offered hours that were unworkable with my schedule. And now that I am in Quebec again, my French isn't good enough apparently. |
| FiatLux | Wow, French-Canadian accent slurred by alcohol. That's gotta be hard to understand. |
| DeathIsYourArt | It isn't as bad a as my 7th grade french teacher... he was from Pakistan |
| DeathIsYourArt | And they wonder why my french sucks? |
| MattH | A French teacher from Pakistan? |
| DeathIsYourArt | ya, my highschool was weird |
| MattH | I suppose that is one word for it. |
| FiatLux | I took Latin in high school, didn't take French till college. Can't really use either one. |
| MattH | I dodged Latin and Greek, but took 3 years of German, 99% of which I have forgotten. |
| DeathIsYourArt | See, I would enjoy latin.. French is an evil viel language that never should be pushed upon innocent children |
| DeathIsYourArt | vile* |
| MattH | I didn't think you were allowed to say that in Quebec.... |
| FiatLux | I don't know what I was thinking taking a dead language, it's not like I'm ever going to the Vatican. |
| DeathIsYourArt | F**k Quebec, and F**K frenchmen |
| DeathIsYourArt | I spit in their general direction |
| MattH | Friend of mine in college was from Britain and had taken 13 years of Latin |
| MattH | Still couldn't speak it. |
| DeathIsYourArt | LOL |
| FiatLux | The good thing about it was a lot of English word have Latin roots, it was the verb tenses that got me. |
| FiatLux | I learned just enough to understand some of the law terms and doctor's perscription instructions. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Hey Elias! I keep coming back to the fact that you were in the same room as James, who had been drinking a lot of JD and you did not take major advantage of it... *shakes head* |
| DeathIsYourArt | That could be useful |
| Elais | hah |
| Elais | James was on the stage |
| Elais | I couldn't take advantage of him unless he fell off of it |
| Elais | and he did his drinking a couple hours before the concert |
| DeathIsYourArt | minor obstacle |
| DeathIsYourArt | The stage is only ..what? 3 feet high |
| Elais | I certainly didn't want to risk being hauled off and kicked out of the con by security |
| Elais | I was more than happy just to watch |
| MattH | Yeah...that sort of thing gets one talked about. |
| FiatLux | I've got a couple things to do before I get ready for bed, so I'm gonna sign off now. |
| Elais | night Fiat |
| MattH | CYA Fiat |
| FiatLux | Thanks for the instructions Matt. |
| MattH | So, anyone seen Prisoner of Azkaban |
| FiatLux | g'night |
| MattH | No problem |
| Elais | nope |
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| MattH | I was going to see it over the weekend, but work interfered. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I saw it |
| DeathIsYourArt | I have mixed feelings |
| MattH | Why? |
| DeathIsYourArt | Mostly directing and editing concerns...let see... |
| DeathIsYourArt | The director uses this fade in and out to a circle technique, which in some scenes is very fitting but is so over used that it becomes awkward and distracting |
| DeathIsYourArt | They were so worried about putting all the important scenes in that it seems as though they are showing you the puzzle pieces instead of letting you figure things out (admittedly I have read the book but still) |
| DeathIsYourArt | Then they leave out a very important piece of info which required that I explain certain concepts to all who went with me and didn't read the book |
| MattH | Hmm...I have read several reviews (not professional but on weblogs etc.). The consensus I got was that it was better than the first two, but left out some important stuff. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Also, for a book/movie where one of the major themes is "time" you might want to give me some. i know it was 2hours 20 but I didn't feel it. The story felt like it took place in a week instead of a year, and without any down time (it kept moving and moving) there was no build up to any of the suspensful scenes |
| MattH | Oh...the "Temple of Doom" syndrome. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I enjoyed it, I did. However, i felt that Chris Columbus was much more faithful to the books. It was more mature looking etc... but it had its problems, and they were very obvious to me |
| DeathIsYourArt | The art direction was superb. However, the best part of the movie for me was the in the first 15 minutes |
| DeathIsYourArt | There is a new directer for the 4th, so perhaps I will appreciate that adaptation more. I just hope that the new guy gets to make a 3 hour movie |
| Elais | sheesh, are they going to do all the books then? |
| MattH | Somehow I doubt it. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I think ti depends on how fast Rowling can finish 6 and 7 |
| DeathIsYourArt | They are shooting 4 now |
| MattH | Book 6 won't be until late 2005 at the earliest. |
| DeathIsYourArt | The kids so far are not against the idea |
| DeathIsYourArt | They would have to amke the 5th book into two movies though |
| DeathIsYourArt | It is pretty big book...I still haven't read it. |
| MattH | I doubt they will be too old. Older people play teenagers all the time. |
| DeathIsYourArt | very true |
| MattH | JKR very much wants too avoid splitting book 5 into 2 films. |
| Elais | well, the actors are close to the ages of the characters already |
| MattH | I would think book 4 would be harder...there is a lot of stuff that could be trimmed from 5 without problems. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Like I said, I haven't read it |
| DeathIsYourArt | I need to borrow it off of my cousin |
| MattH | You could try the library. |
| DeathIsYourArt | The closest library to me is a ways away, and they never have it in |
| DeathIsYourArt | I have to finish the Divine Comedy anyways |
| MattH | Hmm...in LA we can reserve books online... |
| DeathIsYourArt | Depends ont he library. I could do that in Toronto... I don't think Montreal cares about books as much as some other places |
| DeathIsYourArt | The really big libraries here are all university libraries. And if you are not a student you can't take a book off the grounds |
| MattH | Yeah...I remember that. Berkeley didn't have a good section on popular fiction when I went there, either. |
| DeathIsYourArt | There is a nice little one near where I used to live. However, that is the one that HP is always taken out in |
| DeathIsYourArt | We have a lot of book stores on the Island. I just don't have the expendable cash to go towards books, when I can borrow them |
| MattH | *That* I definitely understand. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Money sucks! |
| MattH | I disagree...*lack* of money sucks. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Ya, you can look at it that way too |
| MattH | Money itself is either nice and shiny (coins) or has this pretty green hue that kind of glistens in the light... |
| DeathIsYourArt | HAHAHA , I just realized that the little bottle of Jack (like the ones Spike couldn't get drunk on) that I had for the finale is still half full. THAT is how big a lush I am. I only drank one out of two ounces. I probably ran out of coke or something... |
| DeathIsYourArt | So you are impressed with shiny things huh? |
| MattH | When they're money ;-) |
| Elais | I always hit the libraries |
| DeathIsYourArt | *SMACK8 didn't work, they still don't have HP |
| Elais | I rarely buy books at a bookstore |
| MattH | Usenet is pretty good. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Usenet? |
| DeathIsYourArt | used book store? |
| MattH | Usenet binaries new groups. |
| DeathIsYourArt | please explain further |
| DeathIsYourArt | Do they just share books online? |
| MattH | Usenet is an older form of internet bulletin board access. |
| MattH | Not just books - there are over 100,000 newsgroups |
| DeathIsYourArt | gotcha |
| Elais | I've been to some Buffy Angel usenet groups |
| DeathIsYourArt | I still prefer to have a book in my hand than read it online |
| DeathIsYourArt | For fan fiction? |
| Elais | no, just general comments on the show |
| MattH | I frequent alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer.creative for fan fiction |
| DeathIsYourArt | I have basically stopped reading fan fic. I can't find anything in canon that is good. And though I can take AU at times, it is loosing interest with me. The characterization is totally off |
| MattH | Used to get new buffy eps from the binary newsgroups |
| Elais | I used to get some eps from slayerverse or buffy.nu |
| DeathIsYourArt | ya buffy.nu was my main source. Ther eis also the yahoo group nummy treat. But I haven't needed to use them yet |
| DeathIsYourArt | If I ever get around to making videos then I probably will |
| Elais | oops, better get going |
| MattH | Most of the fanfiction I read now is Harry Potter. Some BTVS fanfiction |
| DeathIsYourArt | bye bye Elais |
| Elais | talk to you two laters |
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| DeathIsYourArt | What kind of HP fan fic? |
| MattH | Some AU, some genre...I have started recommending fanfiction on my website. |
| MattH | Not just putting it in E-book format. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Ya I saw the link. I just didn't follow. I'll check it out |
| MattH | If you like crossovers, I think Don Sample's "Harry Potter and the Key of Dagon" is one of the best fics I have ever read. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Interesting. i will check it out then |
| DeathIsYourArt | And on that note. I will bid you farewell until next week. If you hear from LLL just ICQ me and let me know. Bye for now |
| MattH | Ok - CYA |
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| Session Close (#thesuccubusclub): Wed Jun 09 20:03:39 2004 |