Succubus Club Chat Transcript

for June 9, 2004

Session Start ( Wed Jun 09 17:56:44 2004
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MattHHiya DIYA
DeathIsYourArtHi Harris. How was work?
MattHMuch easier than last week.
MattHHow are things at your end of the world?
DeathIsYourArtvery good. You were right by the way; I am not getting anywhere near the numbers that Candy got last year for the Golden Fangs
MattHHow many so far?
DeathIsYourArtThings are hot and humid...not my type of weather at all. I have a family member in the hospital, and everyone seems to be freaking except me.
DeathIsYourArt110 so far. I have to remind Candy to send out a reminder as a special notice for anyone who has that as their preference for the mailing list
DeathIsYourArtYa my aunt had 2 heart attacks in a matter of hours.
MattHOuch. What's the prognosis?
DeathIsYourArtI knew it was coming. She was in the hospital in Feburary for neumonia, and various other problems. And the moment she got out of the hospital she ignored her doctors orders and began smoking again. They are still running tests to be sure fo anything. There is a history in our family of heart problems. Her own son has already had a pacemaker put in
MattHSmoking will do that. My mom smokes...the family has been trying to get her to quit for years.
DeathIsYourArtYa, we finally got my dad to quit about 3 years ago.
DeathIsYourArtI'm working on my friends now
MattHMy mom quit once - after a trip to the hospital with breathing problems. Gave it up for four years...then started smoking again, because she put on weight.
DeathIsYourArtI hate that excuse... one of my other aunts is using that one
DeathIsYourArtSo what about all other things on your end?
DeathIsYourArtI haven't heard from LLL about the con yet, and she isn't on ICQ. I hope she remembers tonight
MattHNot much happening on my end of the world. Thought about going to the Reagan library, but the wait times were too long.
MattHI sent a notice to the mailing list right before coming on.
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MattHHiya CM
DeathIsYourArtI saw the line ups on CNN. You have to really want to pay your respects
Elaisheyas Matt, DIYA
DeathIsYourArtHI ELIAS
DeathIsYourArtElais* he he he sorry
Elaisthat's okay
Elaishow was your weekend?
MattHBusy. I worked Saturday.
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FiatLuxHello all
MattHHiya Fiat
Elaishi Fiat!
FiatLuxEverybody doing OK tonight?
Elaisdoing alright
MattHFair to middling.
Elaisnot sure how much of this Reagan mourning I can stand
FiatLuxI've been watching it on and off all afternoon. I feel for Mrs. Reagan.
MattHI practically broke down when I heard he died.
MattHEven though I had been expecting it.
FiatLuxReagan was pretty much THE President while I was growing up. Too young to remember anyone else.
Elaisit has definitely been a tough 10 years for her
MattHCarter was the first president I really remember...I initally had a positive impression of him...then it went downhill from their.
MattHYeah...I really feel for Nancy
Elaisamazing how much praise is being lavished by him now
ElaisI liked Reagan at the beginning
MattHReagans mother had Alzheimers, so he knew what was coming...that sucks a lot also
Elaisbut it went downhill from there
Elaisnot sure I would consider him a great enough president to put him on the 20 dollar bill
MattHHeh...I don't want him on the 20 dollar bill
Elaisfunny..I'm remembering Reagan as he was
MattHI want him on Rushmore ;-)
Elaisand I look at the candidates we have for prez now
FiatLuxHe wrote a letter to the nation right after he found out about his illness.
MattHYep - I've read it.
FiatLuxTo keep me occupied with all this going on and no Angel, I've decide to learn HTML. I'm not doing so hot.
MattHWhat is the problem?
ElaisI dabbled in html for a short while
FiatLuxI have the basics down, but I can't seem to get things to end up where I want them. I've switch around the code all different ways and checked all the tags. I dunno.
MattHHeh - until I installed a weblog, I hand coded all of the html on my website.
MattHWhat exactly are you trying to do?
FiatLuxPlus I don't have much to put up on a site. I've been playing around with different extras and such.
FiatLuxMostly the positioning. I think I finally figured out the linking, who knew capitalization was important :)
DeathIsYourArtI need to figure out what to put on my own site...then I'll find the motivation to really learn how to do everything. Without a goal get bored too easily
MattHCapitalization is important depending on the server. Windows servers don't care. Unix/Linux does
FiatLuxI'm just using Notepad, maybe I should look into a program that can "teach" me more.
FiatLuxI'm using my ISPs pages and it took almost all day yesterday to figure out the capitalization thing. I knew I had the link right.
MattHYou really don't need to use all of the
MattHAlso, be careful using not standard fonts. If the end user doesn't have a font, their browser will substitute something.
FiatLuxReally? I was just basing it on other pages code. Now you tell me. Yeah I was worried about the font. I was going to go back and use Window's standard fonts
FiatLuxI think I'll leave it for now, like Death said, I'll wait till I have more to put up. I did have a friend make me a banner.
DeathIsYourArtohh what kind of a banner?
FiatLuxSurprise surprise, it's a Buffy one. And another like the "PSA" ads I have on there now.
DeathIsYourArtHey Elias... I don't notice your name on my list. Have you voted in the Golden Fangs yet?
FiatLuxAny ideas on what else I can put up or take down. I don't need that Tag board thing, I just saw it on another site and wanted to see how to do it.
MattHFiat - If you want I can send you "So You Want To Make A Web Page". It is an old tutorial I used when I was first learning HTML. It isn't on the web (in a free version) anymore.
FiatLuxOoh, I voted.
DeathIsYourArtI want it!
FiatLuxYeah Harris, I'd appreciate that.
MattHThis is pre-CSS so it is really easy to learn. Cascading Sytle Sheets are a pain.
DeathIsYourArtBy the way Harris. I gave up on that Database and decided to just use excel for the tabulation. the database took too much time and I didn't trust it.
FiatLuxI have a question. The .html file-- I read that it can be named anything, but unless I call it index.html it doesn't show up.
FiatLuxIs that a server thing or what?
MattHIndex is generally the file the webbrowser loads first...and yes, it is a server thing.
DeathIsYourArtAnd just as a general observation... You would figure that people would get their favorite quotes correct. I wonder how many people are just repeating what others suggest.
DeathIsYourArtAnd though you put it up for Fait, I say tahnk you for the link anyways
MattHI put it up for all of you who want it.
FiatLuxI couldn't think of just one quote, so I didn't even fill that out.
FiatLuxWhat was your all's favorites?
MattHI'd also recommend getting a second browser, just to compare against IE.
MattH"Can I at least deny you 3 times"
Elaishee hee
DeathIsYourArtI have too many too, but I am not voting
Elais"We've never been intimate, cept that one time..."
FiatLuxIt probably wasn't supposed to be that funny, but I liked when Angel said, "We have a forever love!"
MattHThat was funny...I thought that was a shout out to all the slash Fanfic writers out there...
ElaisIt was definitely a shout out
MattHOr "You're so cute" - Fred to Puppet Angel... loved that
ElaisI think James said that Joss really pushed the homoerotic stuff on Angel this year
MattHReally? I didn't notice.
DeathIsYourArtApparently because it bugged David, and Joss likes to do that
MattHAny news on Andy Hallet?
Elaiswee little puppet man
Elaisno more news as far as I know
DeathIsYourArtNothing new on his website
Elaisprobably still checking him out and determining what treatment he needs to have
MattHAh news is probably good news.
Elaisguess we'll have to wait for official word
Elaisplenty of people have been getting 'get well' stuff together
ElaisI signed an enormous 'get well' card at Moonlight Rising
MattHHow was MR?
DeathIsYourArtyes tell tell
Elaisvery glad I went
Elaisgot my picture with James Marsters
DeathIsYourArtWere you thinking of me when you did?
ElaisI was able to get very close to the stage for the Common Ro/GoTR concert
Elaiswhen you are hugging James, other people are the last thing in your mind
DeathIsYourArtI don't think I like youanymore
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Elaisyou'll have to hate everyone else at the con too
DeathIsYourArtFine I'll give you taht
ElaisJames was in a open mood
FiatLuxI've still never been to any con. Maybe in a few years when a middle aged SMG starts doing appearances I'll make one.
DeathIsYourArtOne day...when I have money..
Elaisthere that oakland con in August
ElaisI thought SMG was doing some kind of con promoting 'The Grudge'
DeathIsYourArtAnyone else not caring about that movie at all?
MattHAnyone planning to see "The Grudge?"
ElaisSan Diego Comic Con
FiatLuxI haven't really heard much about The Grudge, just the basics and I've seen some pics. The ones that was linked on the list.
ElaisI don't think I'll see it
MattHI'm not, FYI
FiatLuxI doubt it.
DeathIsYourArtElias please continue your report...unless you were too drunk to remember what happened?
Elaisdon't drink alcohol
ElaisI did get a chance to talk to Danny Strong a couple of times
FiatLuxAlcohol and Marsters, that's a good combo for me.
MattHDIYA...quit projecting ;-)
ElaisI was able to meet most of the GoTR band members
FiatLuxYeah Death, not everyone are lushes!
Elaisasked James a question during the Q&A
MattHWhat was the ? ?
Elaishow about James Marsters for Governor of California
ElaisI think there is a transcript of the whole Q&A session somewhere
DeathIsYourArtSure Faitlux ... just me.... you don't find the idea of James and Jack Daniels appealing inthe least
Elaisfunny you should say Jack Daniels
Elaisit was said James had a bit too much Jack Daniels before the concert
DeathIsYourArtI'm all hat and no cat really. I can count the number of times I have had a drink in the past 3 years on one hand
MattHYeah...but how well do you count them when sober? :)
DeathIsYourArtElias James doesn't drink anymore from what I have heard
DeathIsYourArtHe might have started again
DeathIsYourArtI don't know
ElaisI don't think so
ElaisJames apologized the next day
DeathIsYourArtoh, okay...Bad info then
ElaisI hate to speculate on that kind of stuff
FiatLuxI haven't had a chance to go out and drink in forever. I've been a homebody these last few months.
DeathIsYourArtWhen sober it would take two hands Harris. But no more than that
MattHI gave up drinking when I turned 21.
DeathIsYourArtJust when you became legal...not fun anymore huh?
FiatLuxOnce you're old enough to buy it, it loses it's appeal
Elaisrumors spread way too easily on the flimisiest things
MattHPretty alcohol is expensive and fattening.
DeathIsYourArtHere I would have already had 3 good years of legal drinking
DeathIsYourArtYay to Quebecs 18 year olod drinking age
MattHIs there anything else to do in Canada besides drink?
DeathIsYourArtIf I can choose who runs my country (they all suck) then I should be able to decide what I do with my own body
FiatLuxHeh, heh
DeathIsYourArtHockey, sex etc..
FiatLuxDrunken curling and hot ice rink sex?
DeathIsYourArtThat sounds like fun
DeathIsYourArtWe do everythign Americans do...we just do it with better beer
MattHEh...I definitely don't like beer...another reason I gave up drinking.
DeathIsYourArtI'm not a beer person anymore either. I did when I was a teenager. The moment I got my mixing licence that changed though.
FiatLuxI went through a beer phase. I hated it, then didn't drink anything but.
MattHMixing license?
DeathIsYourArtbartending licence
DeathIsYourArtexcept spelled correctly
MattHHmm...I wasn't aware one needed a license to tend bar. My brother did it for a while and I don't recall him needing one.
FiatLuxBartending schools are big around here. I'm not sure if it's a requirement legally though.
DeathIsYourArtyou don't actually. All ti really means is that I know how to make all basic (100 or so) drinks. And that I know what glasses they go in and with what. Hotels usually look for it. bars don't. In Ontario I had to get "smart serve" which is a seminar thingy about when to cut people off etc..
DeathIsYourArtI got all that and have barely been able to use it. I was very popular at residence parties at university though
MattHCan't get a job as a bartender?
FiatLuxOh yeah, my friend got kinda mad though, because all the parties us group of friends had no one ordered anything exotic, so he didn't get to practice much.
DeathIsYourArtWhen I was at school, I was always offered hours that were unworkable with my schedule. And now that I am in Quebec again, my French isn't good enough apparently.
FiatLuxWow, French-Canadian accent slurred by alcohol. That's gotta be hard to understand.
DeathIsYourArtIt isn't as bad a as my 7th grade french teacher... he was from Pakistan
DeathIsYourArtAnd they wonder why my french sucks?
MattHA French teacher from Pakistan?
DeathIsYourArtya, my highschool was weird
MattHI suppose that is one word for it.
FiatLuxI took Latin in high school, didn't take French till college. Can't really use either one.
MattHI dodged Latin and Greek, but took 3 years of German, 99% of which I have forgotten.
DeathIsYourArtSee, I would enjoy latin.. French is an evil viel language that never should be pushed upon innocent children
MattHI didn't think you were allowed to say that in Quebec....
FiatLuxI don't know what I was thinking taking a dead language, it's not like I'm ever going to the Vatican.
DeathIsYourArtF**k Quebec, and F**K frenchmen
DeathIsYourArtI spit in their general direction
MattHFriend of mine in college was from Britain and had taken 13 years of Latin
MattHStill couldn't speak it.
FiatLuxThe good thing about it was a lot of English word have Latin roots, it was the verb tenses that got me.
FiatLuxI learned just enough to understand some of the law terms and doctor's perscription instructions.
DeathIsYourArtHey Elias! I keep coming back to the fact that you were in the same room as James, who had been drinking a lot of JD and you did not take major advantage of it... *shakes head*
DeathIsYourArtThat could be useful
ElaisJames was on the stage
ElaisI couldn't take advantage of him unless he fell off of it
Elaisand he did his drinking a couple hours before the concert
DeathIsYourArtminor obstacle
DeathIsYourArtThe stage is only ..what? 3 feet high
ElaisI certainly didn't want to risk being hauled off and kicked out of the con by security
ElaisI was more than happy just to watch
MattHYeah...that sort of thing gets one talked about.
FiatLuxI've got a couple things to do before I get ready for bed, so I'm gonna sign off now.
Elaisnight Fiat
MattHCYA Fiat
FiatLuxThanks for the instructions Matt.
MattHSo, anyone seen Prisoner of Azkaban
MattHNo problem
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MattHI was going to see it over the weekend, but work interfered.
DeathIsYourArtI saw it
DeathIsYourArtI have mixed feelings
DeathIsYourArtMostly directing and editing concerns...let see...
DeathIsYourArtThe director uses this fade in and out to a circle technique, which in some scenes is very fitting but is so over used that it becomes awkward and distracting
DeathIsYourArtThey were so worried about putting all the important scenes in that it seems as though they are showing you the puzzle pieces instead of letting you figure things out (admittedly I have read the book but still)
DeathIsYourArtThen they leave out a very important piece of info which required that I explain certain concepts to all who went with me and didn't read the book
MattHHmm...I have read several reviews (not professional but on weblogs etc.). The consensus I got was that it was better than the first two, but left out some important stuff.
DeathIsYourArtAlso, for a book/movie where one of the major themes is "time" you might want to give me some. i know it was 2hours 20 but I didn't feel it. The story felt like it took place in a week instead of a year, and without any down time (it kept moving and moving) there was no build up to any of the suspensful scenes
MattHOh...the "Temple of Doom" syndrome.
DeathIsYourArtI enjoyed it, I did. However, i felt that Chris Columbus was much more faithful to the books. It was more mature looking etc... but it had its problems, and they were very obvious to me
DeathIsYourArtThe art direction was superb. However, the best part of the movie for me was the in the first 15 minutes
DeathIsYourArtThere is a new directer for the 4th, so perhaps I will appreciate that adaptation more. I just hope that the new guy gets to make a 3 hour movie
Elaissheesh, are they going to do all the books then?
MattHSomehow I doubt it.
DeathIsYourArtI think ti depends on how fast Rowling can finish 6 and 7
DeathIsYourArtThey are shooting 4 now
MattHBook 6 won't be until late 2005 at the earliest.
DeathIsYourArtThe kids so far are not against the idea
DeathIsYourArtThey would have to amke the 5th book into two movies though
DeathIsYourArtIt is pretty big book...I still haven't read it.
MattHI doubt they will be too old. Older people play teenagers all the time.
DeathIsYourArtvery true
MattHJKR very much wants too avoid splitting book 5 into 2 films.
Elaiswell, the actors are close to the ages of the characters already
MattHI would think book 4 would be harder...there is a lot of stuff that could be trimmed from 5 without problems.
DeathIsYourArtLike I said, I haven't read it
DeathIsYourArtI need to borrow it off of my cousin
MattHYou could try the library.
DeathIsYourArtThe closest library to me is a ways away, and they never have it in
DeathIsYourArtI have to finish the Divine Comedy anyways LA we can reserve books online...
DeathIsYourArtDepends ont he library. I could do that in Toronto... I don't think Montreal cares about books as much as some other places
DeathIsYourArtThe really big libraries here are all university libraries. And if you are not a student you can't take a book off the grounds
MattHYeah...I remember that. Berkeley didn't have a good section on popular fiction when I went there, either.
DeathIsYourArtThere is a nice little one near where I used to live. However, that is the one that HP is always taken out in
DeathIsYourArtWe have a lot of book stores on the Island. I just don't have the expendable cash to go towards books, when I can borrow them
MattH*That* I definitely understand.
DeathIsYourArtMoney sucks!
MattHI disagree...*lack* of money sucks.
DeathIsYourArtYa, you can look at it that way too
MattHMoney itself is either nice and shiny (coins) or has this pretty green hue that kind of glistens in the light...
DeathIsYourArtHAHAHA , I just realized that the little bottle of Jack (like the ones Spike couldn't get drunk on) that I had for the finale is still half full. THAT is how big a lush I am. I only drank one out of two ounces. I probably ran out of coke or something...
DeathIsYourArtSo you are impressed with shiny things huh?
MattHWhen they're money ;-)
ElaisI always hit the libraries
DeathIsYourArt*SMACK8 didn't work, they still don't have HP
ElaisI rarely buy books at a bookstore
MattHUsenet is pretty good.
DeathIsYourArtused book store?
MattHUsenet binaries new groups.
DeathIsYourArtplease explain further
DeathIsYourArtDo they just share books online?
MattHUsenet is an older form of internet bulletin board access.
MattHNot just books - there are over 100,000 newsgroups
ElaisI've been to some Buffy Angel usenet groups
DeathIsYourArtI still prefer to have a book in my hand than read it online
DeathIsYourArtFor fan fiction?
Elaisno, just general comments on the show
MattHI frequent for fan fiction
DeathIsYourArtI have basically stopped reading fan fic. I can't find anything in canon that is good. And though I can take AU at times, it is loosing interest with me. The characterization is totally off
MattHUsed to get new buffy eps from the binary newsgroups
ElaisI used to get some eps from slayerverse or
DeathIsYourArtya was my main source. Ther eis also the yahoo group nummy treat. But I haven't needed to use them yet
DeathIsYourArtIf I ever get around to making videos then I probably will
Elaisoops, better get going
MattHMost of the fanfiction I read now is Harry Potter. Some BTVS fanfiction
DeathIsYourArtbye bye Elais
Elaistalk to you two laters
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DeathIsYourArtWhat kind of HP fan fic?
MattHSome AU, some genre...I have started recommending fanfiction on my website.
MattHNot just putting it in E-book format.
DeathIsYourArtYa I saw the link. I just didn't follow. I'll check it out
MattHIf you like crossovers, I think Don Sample's "Harry Potter and the Key of Dagon" is one of the best fics I have ever read.
DeathIsYourArtInteresting. i will check it out then
DeathIsYourArtAnd on that note. I will bid you farewell until next week. If you hear from LLL just ICQ me and let me know. Bye for now
MattHOk - CYA
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Session Close (#thesuccubusclub): Wed Jun 09 20:03:39 2004