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| MattH | Hey Amy |
| Amy_Madison | hiya |
| Amy_Madison | just watching angel (TBS) |
| Amy_Madison | oops TNT |
| MattH | What ep? |
| Amy_Madison | opening ep of season 4 (wes just got in out of the lake |
| MattH | Ah...one of the few S4 episodes I really liked. |
| Amy_Madison | been getting touch with Amazon.uk to see when the Season 5's are out |
| Amy_Madison | right now, just the vhs's |
| MattH | I still haven't watched my Angel S2 DVDs...I wasn't into that show nearly as intensely as Buffy. |
| Amy_Madison | And Tru calling is gonig to be out soon as well.. finally |
| MattH | I doubt I will get that ... while I like the show...once per ep is enough. |
| Amy_Madison | ah |
| Amy_Madison | I was thinking of seeing if the TSC peoples would be interested in possibly a Kitty/Candy (TSC) con |
| MattH | Hmmm...think there would be enough interest? While it may seem like a lot, I doubt they have more than 3000 listeners worldwide. |
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| MattH | Hello Mr Blue |
| *** mr_BLUE is now known as Joel |
| MattH | Ah, Joel...what's up? |
| Joel | not much just thought id check in, despite being very tired |
| Joel | hows things |
| MattH | Not a whole lot happening, especially as TSC has been delayed a week. |
| Amy_Madison | BRB |
| Joel | yeah i just noticed that |
| Joel | what time is it where you are# |
| MattH | 5:55 PM |
| MattH | Here in Sunny Los Angeles |
| Joel | its 2am here in rainy northern england |
| MattH | Ouch...no wonder you are tired. |
| Joel | now you know why i dont come to the chat room as often as id like |
| MattH | Yeah.... |
| Joel | ive been watching my buffy DVDs again after not watching btvs for a couple of months now |
| MattH | And...notice anything special? |
| Joel | funny to think that its all done |
| Joel | like the end of an era |
| MattH | Yeah...I feel kind of empty. |
| Joel | somehow reality TV doesnt quite fill the gap |
| MattH | I haven't turned on my TV in over a month and that was just to clear out stuff from my replay TV |
| Joel | and they wonder why the youth of today play video games |
| MattH | I just read fanfiction. |
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| Joel | hi diya |
| DeathIsYourArt | Hello |
| MattH | Hiya DIYA, Suze |
| suze2000 | Hopory!!! |
| suze2000 | ah... hooray!! |
| DeathIsYourArt | Everybody decided to show up and still NO SHOW *tear* |
| suze2000 | I've been trying for TWO HOURS to log on to FEF net |
| Joel | bummer |
| MattH | Really? Your internet connection or problems fef.net |
| suze2000 | Bummber doesn't even begin to cover it! grrr |
| suze2000 | fef.net |
| suze2000 | so how is everyone? :) |
| Joel | ok |
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| MattH | Pretty good...bummed about the last show and the fact that it isn't tonight...but I understand the reasoning |
| MattH | Hiya CM |
| Elais | looks like Succubus club is postponed |
| Elais | glad I checked the site |
| DeathIsYourArt | I had to be reminded of what a TV was the other day but other than that I can't complain. |
| suze2000 | bummed about the show too :( |
| Elais | with Angel and Buffy gone |
| Elais | and kitty with the baby |
| suze2000 | DIYA: did you stop watching telly? |
| MattH | Candy posted a notice to the mailing list. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I have turned the TV on 6 times since the beginning of June |
| DeathIsYourArt | It just sits there |
| MattH | So much? |
| DeathIsYourArt | 3 movies, 2 times for the 24 hour rock music video channel and once for the opening of the games |
| suze2000 | and here's me, just got it on for background noise. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Pretty soon I think the amount of dust collecting on it will cause it to collapse in on itself |
| DeathIsYourArt | That was an awful sentence *shakes head at self* |
| MattH | Dunno...TV's can carry a lot of dust ;-) |
| DeathIsYourArt | So what has everyone been up to? |
| Elais | working up the jealousy of those able to go to Oakland this weekend |
| MattH | The usual...work, work and more work. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Elais I completely understand. Half of LJ is going and rubbing it in whenever they can |
| Joel | same here |
| DeathIsYourArt | And Harris, don't you think you could get a better picture of Michelle for your desktop? |
| Elais | i'm almost praying the con will suck ;-) |
| DeathIsYourArt | Don't do that Elais, that is going too far |
| MattH | It is an excellent picture...it just doesn't look that good covered by icons. |
| suze2000 | I'm so jealous of everyone going to Oakland |
| Elais | not to mention the people going to the dragoncon |
| suze2000 | But I AM going to Collectormania in the UK in Oct |
| DeathIsYourArt | As long as the fan girls behave themselves then I wish everyone well...I just would like to be there too. I have a friend doing research in the area too. I would have someone to party with :/ |
| Amy_Madison | damn i m gonna miss that one |
| MattH | I lived in Oakland for a year...no real desire to visit ;-) |
| Amy_Madison | and so wanted to see my glory |
| Elais | AND the people going to the James/David Halloween con in the UK |
| DeathIsYourArt | Way too expensive in my opinion |
| suze2000 | nah. that's going to suck. :P |
| suze2000 | and it's too too pricey by far |
| MattH | CM - sounds like you have serious case of Con-Envy |
| Amy_Madison | so, any from the Uk hear anything about the Season 5 Angel DVD's yet??? |
| Joel | nope, i get my DVDs from the US |
| Elais | only because I ran out of money to go to them |
| Joel | cheaper, and better features |
| Amy_Madison | the US ones??? |
| DeathIsYourArt | Out in Feburary |
| Elais | I'll have to save my pennies and see what cons will be up next year |
| DeathIsYourArt | I will never have money for cons. I just have to accept it and move on |
| Amy_Madison | DIYA: Thanks |
| Joel | i get them off amazon.com |
| Amy_Madison | anyone have proder links yet |
| suze2000 | I thought all the DVDs were the same, mostly |
| Joel | 30 quid |
| Joel | including postage |
| Amy_Madison | mostly, yes |
| DeathIsYourArt | not quite. The UK ones never have ALL fo the features that they finish in time for the US release |
| Joel | yeah the uk ones often miss commentaries and stuff |
| DeathIsYourArt | That is why even if I was on PAL I would get the US ones and hack my DVD player |
| suze2000 | do the AUssie ones suffer from that too? |
| Elais | I wanna see the season 7 extra's Candy is on |
| Amy_Madison | it was cool |
| suze2000 | I'm waiting for my S7s to arrive ATM |
| DeathIsYourArt | Hold I ... I may have it on my HD and I can put it up somewhere..let me check |
| Amy_Madison | its on the "always about the fans' thing |
| DeathIsYourArt | And ti is Kitty not Candy |
| Amy_Madison | both US,UK and AUS ones |
| Amy_Madison | Kitty and ME Rayne |
| Joel | i didnt think the S7 dvd was out yet |
| Amy_Madison | R2/R4 ones are |
| Amy_Madison | had mine for a 1/2 year |
| DeathIsYourArt | The extras went up on Suprnova.org |
| Amy_Madison | all i'm missing are the Angel 5's |
| suze2000 | ohh.. really? argh |
| Amy_Madison | cool |
| Elais | I knew either Kitty or Candy were on |
| suze2000 | oh no, that's bittorrent isn't it? I don't use that. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I don't have ti on my computer anymore, I must have burned it off already. |
| suze2000 | if someone could put it on a server, I'd love them forever. :) |
| suze2000 | awww... |
| Joel | im waiting for s6 dvd, in the post at the mo |
| DeathIsYourArt | I'll see what I can do but I can't do anything tonight, sorry! |
| Amy_Madison | about??/ |
| DeathIsYourArt | And it is kind of big to put up as a normal file. It is about 45MB |
| DeathIsYourArt | Are you on cable? |
| Amy_Madison | oh, did n't see that |
| suze2000 | eek! can't convert it to AVI? don't worry about it, I'm buying them. |
| suze2000 | heh |
| suze2000 | I'm on a stupid dialup at the moment |
| DeathIsYourArt | okay. |
| DeathIsYourArt | And that is as an avi |
| Amy_Madison | that's okie |
| MattH | 45MB on dialup - ouch.... |
| Amy_Madison | Damn |
| suze2000 | yikes! |
| suze2000 | yeah, it takes a (few) hours... well more than a few |
| suze2000 | heh |
| suze2000 | if I want to do anything else at the time as well |
| DeathIsYourArt | see on cable that would take me about a minute |
| suze2000 | shhhh... I'm on a tropical island, for consolation |
| suze2000 | :) |
| DeathIsYourArt | I'm a red-head. I don't do tropical anything |
| DeathIsYourArt | Fall in Canada is my thing |
| Elais | I love fall |
| MattH | Weather is something you experience when you leave the computer and go outdoors.... I try and avoid that |
| suze2000 | I was supposed to visit a friend in CT this Oct |
| DeathIsYourArt | LOL so true |
| suze2000 | take the computer with you.... just need a long cord! |
| suze2000 | that's what I do. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Or a laptop with battery |
| MattH | Yeah...but I have cable also....my internet connection would be too slow. |
| DeathIsYourArt | So why are you no longer going to CT Suze? |
| suze2000 | well, I might if I'm still not working. but of course, if I'm still not working, I will not have enough money for it |
| suze2000 | grr |
| Joel | im real tired, goodnight people - have a good week! |
| MattH | CYA next week Joel...get plenty of rest. |
| Amy_Madison | see you next week Joel |
| DeathIsYourArt | bye Joel |
| *** Signoff: Joel ((null)) |
| Amy_Madison | get readt to MP3 the final show |
| Amy_Madison | Joel |
| suze2000 | hang on, what time is it over there? |
| MattH | The old conundrum...if you have time you don't have money and vice versa. |
| DeathIsYourArt | EST it is 9:24 |
| MattH | about 2:30 AM |
| Amy_Madison | damn.. missed joel |
| Amy_Madison | 6:25 PSST |
| Amy_Madison | PST |
| suze2000 | Matt, you in Europe? |
| DeathIsYourArt | no Joel is |
| suze2000 | okay, I just need to make sure that I arrive in time next week. |
| Amy_Madison | AH!! |
| MattH | No...I was referring to Joel...he is in England. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Lucky sod that he is |
| MattH | You were in time this week... |
| suze2000 | I have less trouble than most with time zones, but I've crossed so many recently iv'e gotten confused |
| suze2000 | Why is Joel lucky? |
| DeathIsYourArt | Because I want to go to Britain |
| Amy_Madison | there a con close to him |
| Amy_Madison | that too |
| DeathIsYourArt | Anyone else hear the news that DB is doing Jurassic Park 4? I mean, it is good for him, doing a big budget movie and all, but do we really need a Jurassic Park 4? |
| Elais | jurassic park 4? |
| Elais | what's the point? |
| Elais | I stopped watching after the first Jurassic Park |
| Amy_Madison | ggod man |
| DeathIsYourArt | The dinos need more food or something, so they are sending more people...I don't know |
| MattH | I saw JP 1...it offended the Molecular Biologist in me. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I liked the first one because I loved Dino's as a kid, but after that I didn't bother |
| DeathIsYourArt | I saw abotu 20 minutes of the sequels |
| Elais | pfft, Molecular Biology |
| Amy_Madison | well, Charisma ruled out doin Angel again |
| Elais | I wanted to see the Rex chomp people |
| Amy_Madison | sort of |
| DeathIsYourArt | That is really easy to do Amy when Joss tells you that you are dead and already had your one comeback |
| MattH | DB has said he would do Angel, but only on the big screen ,IIRC |
| DeathIsYourArt | I like Charisma but the comment was strange |
| Amy_Madison | http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=6245 |
| Amy_Madison | just got it my email |
| Amy_Madison | And I hope the Sky1 does go for 'HEX' |
| DeathIsYourArt | I do wish everyone luck but I wonder how often these comments are taken out of context, or are serious "you're beneath me " comments to Joss |
| suze2000 | back... sorry |
| MattH | Hex? |
| DeathIsYourArt | Sky1 is making their own version of uffy because they are loosing too much money without it |
| Amy_Madison | dont know anything but what the article said |
| suze2000 | Matt? you are a molecular biologist? |
| DeathIsYourArt | losing* |
| MattH | Nah....it is what I studies in college and graduate school, though. |
| Amy_Madison | Supposed to be a Bitish Like BTVS |
| MattH | Hmmm...I'll have to check it out....thank god for the internet. |
| suze2000 | hey, I did that at uni too! |
| suze2000 | that and biochem |
| MattH | Science was fun...but I sucked in the lab. |
| suze2000 | in what way? |
| * suze2000 is a whizz in lab |
| Elais | Hex? |
| Elais | isn't that the name of the show? |
| Elais | sounds like cross between Charmed and Buffy |
| DeathIsYourArt | People have said that yes |
| MattH | A year and a half in grad school, four lab rotations...not a single experiment really panned out. |
| MattH | I didn't like working with radioactive materials either. |
| suze2000 | bah.. I haven't touched an isotope since I graduated. |
| suze2000 | oh actually that's not true... in 1992 I did some RIA work |
| suze2000 | so what did you do instead... ? |
| DeathIsYourArt | ha ha ha My friend Julie (physics Major) had the same problem. She proved over the course of her last year that every physical law was wrong. We lovingly created the "Julie Paradox" which stated "Everythign is wrong!" in her honor |
| suze2000 | Charmed is just Buffy with less clothes and worse writing anyway |
| suze2000 | lol DIYA |
| MattH | A little of this ... a little of that....right now I am doing Word Processing and other computer stuff for an insurance brokerage. |
| MattH | Charmed is a lot worse than Buffy (IMHO)...I saw about three eps in the first couple of season. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Charmed is not in the same league as Buffy. Charmed is Melrose Place with magic |
| MattH | I liked the first season of Melrose Place. |
| Amy_Madison | I'll just watch the epis with cordy guesting that's about it |
| DeathIsYourArt | I really wish Charism wasn't going to be on that show |
| Amy_Madison | hey, they need jobs too |
| DeathIsYourArt | I know..... *pout* |
| Amy_Madison | cant all be pregnant like Fred |
| MattH | It isn't like there are a lot of *good* shows they could be on. |
| DeathIsYourArt | But didn't she get a bonus for being Playmate of the year? That should allow her to be picky for a few months |
| suze2000 | well at least Tori Spelling's not in it |
| DeathIsYourArt | LOL |
| Amy_Madison | not yet, I think |
| MattH | Was she Playmate of the Year? I know she did a spread, for them but thought that was it. |
| DeathIsYourArt | nope she got the big title too |
| suze2000 | Matt: how did I know it would be IS instead? That's what everyone does when they give up lab work! :) |
| MattH | Heh....everyone in HS thought I was going to be a CS major in college... should have too... |
| Elais | I'm looking forward to Charisma on Charmed |
| Elais | but not as a permanent character |
| Amy_Madison | Nothing bakes a couch potato more than getting emotionally invested in a TV show only to have a bunch of short-sighted network suits pull the plug on it before it really gets rolling. |
| Elais | if Charisma does the snark, I'm there |
| Amy_Madison | she's only slated for 2 epis |
| suze2000 | I'm not sure if I like Charisma enough to make me want to watch the show regularly |
| Amy_Madison | I did for awhile when Rose came on. didn't care to much for Shannen D. |
| MattH | I figured Shanne D would leave the show in a snit...just like 90210 |
| MattH | Rose McGowan is beautiful...but she has left no impression on me as an actress. |
| Amy_Madison | and now she's stuck on Scare tactics.... |
| suze2000 | I thoguth it was because she and AM didn't get on and AM said it's either me or her |
| Elais | I never cared much for Shannon either |
| suze2000 | and won |
| DeathIsYourArt | I like Rose and I like Holly, but that isn't enough to make me watch the show |
| Elais | I started watching pretty much the time Rose Mcgowen came on the show |
| MattH | Yeah...but I *knew* she was going to have friction with someone. |
| Amy_Madison | i like some of Rose' other movies too. |
| Elais | I like Holly way more than the others |
| Amy_Madison | I like Alyssa better when the was on 'Whos the Boss' |
| DeathIsYourArt | Random off topic: I'm doing a soundtrack of a LJ friend. What songs remind you of Doyle? |
| Amy_Madison | her charaters got all bitchy this year (from what I did see) |
| Amy_Madison | the RoseAnne theme song |
| MattH | Hmmmm...."Margaritaville" comes to mind. |
| suze2000 | perhaps that's because she has? |
| DeathIsYourArt | LOL |
| DeathIsYourArt | I have enough Irish drinking songs. I was thinking something a little more meaningful |
| MattH | I liked Alyssa Milano before she cut her hair...I just don't think short hair looks good on her. |
| Amy_Madison | the Cordy/doyle love theme from 'Heros'!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Amy_Madison | gotta have that |
| suze2000 | most blokes seem to prefer long hair though |
| DeathIsYourArt | It isn't a hipper CD, but a singular character one. Which is hard considering how many episodes he had |
| DeathIsYourArt | shipper* |
| MattH | Well...I can't speak for other guys, but I do... |
| DeathIsYourArt | I know, I'm being picky here |
| MattH | Greensleeves, maybe... |
| suze2000 | lol |
| suze2000 | what is GOP in terms of politics? |
| suze2000 | http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=6253 |
| MattH | Grand Ole Party |
| MattH | aka Republican |
| suze2000 | oh. I knre there was a reason why I might have wiped that from my mind |
| suze2000 | *knew |
| DeathIsYourArt | Economists are predicting a Bush win. I am Canadian and that makes me shudder with discust. They say Kerry isn't getting enough exposure |
| Amy_Madison | not suprise about Frddie though |
| suze2000 | Kerry Scmerry. vote for Adams! :) |
| Elais | maybe Kerry should flash a camera? |
| MattH | Kerry's problem is that he is getting too much exposure....the more people see of him, the less they like him. |
| Amy_Madison | better than flashing something lst |
| Elais | how can Kerry work around that problem Matt? |
| Amy_Madison | *else |
| Elais | if people don't see him, how can Kerry win them over? |
| MattH | Go on vacation...it worked earlier this year. |
| suze2000 | the thought of another four years with Bush scares me badly. |
| MattH | Realistically though, he doesn't have much control of events until the debates. |
| MattH | Hate to tell you this...but I am a Bush supporter. |
| suze2000 | doesn't change my opinion of you or him |
| DeathIsYourArt | ditto |
| Elais | the thought scares me too suze |
| Elais | Enemy combatants, anti-gay amendment |
| Elais | faith-based initiatives |
| suze2000 | and it's not because of Bush, per se, it's because of what I see as the likely reaction to a Bush re-election |
| MattH | By whom? |
| suze2000 | well there's those things too |
| DeathIsYourArt | I kow I don't have a say (being Canadian) but I have a problem with how big a target Bush is painting on the US when I live real close to it |
| Elais | I expect Bush to set up a Department of Homeland Religion pretty soon |
| suze2000 | the Islamic world |
| Amy_Madison | If only the INITIATIVE would have been Faith-Based...... |
| Elais | I fear Bush more than terrorists to be honest |
| MattH | They didn't destroy the Two Towers because Bush was president... |
| suze2000 | changes Bush makes to US laws can be undone. |
| suze2000 | Changes made to the US because of Bush cannot |
| suze2000 | Matt: no they did not, I agree |
| DeathIsYourArt | I never said that Matt. However look how fast he destroyed the sympathy the world had for the states after that |
| Amy_Madison | I thought the US was trying to get AWAY from a KING GEORGE!!!!!!!!!!! |
| suze2000 | but what I think now is that they are all sitting back hoping for a change in government |
| MattH | The world sympathized with us because we were victims. Once we began fighting back, they ceased to do so. |
| Amy_Madison | yet last time they votes another one into office. With the help of Daddy and his brother |
| suze2000 | someone a little less sympathetic with Isreal, and who won't invade thier countries at the drop of a hat |
| Elais | good point Matt |
| Elais | I wonder if We'll invade Cuba, Iran or North Korea next |
| suze2000 | there's fighting back and there's fighting back |
| Amy_Madison | Turkey invaded by Canada country renamed 'Chicken" |
| MattH | They are holding back because much of their infrastructure and support network has been destroyed. |
| MattH | Plus it is easier to attack in Iraq than here. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I just don't believe that Bush has control over the situation in the way that he thinks he does. |
| suze2000 | anyway, what I am afraid will happen is Islamic reprisals in the US and its allies (notably UK and Australia) if Bush is re-elected |
| MattH | Hopefully, Iran is next....in many ways I would have preferred to invade them as opposed to Iraq. |
| Amy_Madison | the other cant do as much to them as No korea. the US would be gone then |
| DeathIsYourArt | The last I am going to say on the subject is taht I don't agree with Republican policy in any way shape or form. And at this point I think Bushs actions are costing American lives not saving them |
| MattH | Gone - hardly...NK's ability to directly threaten the US is limited. |
| suze2000 | see what I'm talking about? The problems in Iraq are continuing and you want to go into Iran??!!! |
| MattH | What problems in Iraq? They are attacking our soldiers in a place convenient for us to kill them, as opposed to attacking defenseless civilians on our soil. |
| suze2000 | Not to mention the fact that we never hear anything about Afghanistan anymore, despite the fact that the country is still in chaos |
| MattH | Iraq is getting much, much better. |
| Elais | but they are not yet free |
| Elais | they are free from Saddam's rule |
| MattH | Afghanistan is much better off than before we invaded. |
| Elais | but they have yet to choose their own goverment |
| Amy_Madison | and they wont be as long as US is there |
| suze2000 | there have been continual rebel uprising in Iraq. |
| Elais | I think Afgans just voted, didn't they> |
| suze2000 | okay, no Saddam, but has the lot of the average Iraqi improved? |
| Amy_Madison | they keep getting attacked from their own peoples |
| MattH | Most of the rebellions in Iraq are not due to Iraquis. |
| MattH | Yes....read Iraqui webblogs. |
| Elais | how expensive was it to overthrow the Taliban and maintain order in Afganistan until they could set up their own government> |
| Elais | Iraq will take just as long and perhaps be way more expensive |
| suze2000 | And just where is Osama hiding in all this? |
| MattH | Cheaper than letting get the Taliban blow up our buildings and murder our citiizens. |
| MattH | Pakistan, most likely. |
| Amy_Madison | The international Space Station |
| suze2000 | Matt: nobody ever said the WTC was okay |
| MattH | ISS is a piece of crap, as is the Space Shuttle. |
| Amy_Madison | put there for save keeping By the Bush fam. |
| MattH | Not saying anyone did....but it was the proximate cause why we invaded Afghanistan....successfully I might add. |
| * suze2000 likes the space shuttle :( |
| MattH | The space shuttle and NASA have nearly ruined American space exploration. |
| suze2000 | and we went in with the US. I just don't like the thought of marching accross the middle east looking for oil |
| Amy_Madison | and when did Afganistan change its name to Iroq |
| Amy_Madison | True |
| MattH | We are not fighting a country, but a culture.... |
| suze2000 | Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran... and you know where is the nest of them all? The allies, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan |
| MattH | Wahabbist/Fundamentalist Islam for the most part. |
| MattH | Saudia Arabia should be on the list as well... |
| suze2000 | it's impossible for real change to happen in those countries unless the people are willing to create an uprising from within as well. |
| MattH | Suze - re: the space shuttle - check out http://www.jerrypournelle.com/index.html |
| Amy_Madison | OT: http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=6249 |
| MattH | No revolution (including ours) has exceeding without outside support. |
| suze2000 | A co-worker of mine, an Iraqi, said that he didn't think the Americans could remove Saddam because the Iraqis wouldn't let them invade without a fight. Okay the Americans removed Saddam, which is great, but now the Iraqis are fighting them because they want them out. |
| MattH | Amy - thank you...I don't really come here for the politics. |
| MattH | Most Iraquis don't want us to leave (at least yet)....chaos is no ones friend. |
| Elais | I thought the Taliban were just a group of extremists that took over Afganistan |
| suze2000 | the big problem is now: if they leave, the country's fragile infrastructure (what there is of it) is likely to collapse. So at this point, the US is damned if they stay and damned if they go |
| Elais | I didn't think they were terrorists |
| MattH | The infrastructure was already near collapse under Saddam and the sanctions. |
| suze2000 | you're right. we don't need to argue about this. we cannot solve the world's problems amoungst the 5 of us! |
| suze2000 | :) |
| MattH | The Taliban aided and abbetted Al Quaeda. |
| suze2000 | Is there a Paris, MA? |
| DeathIsYourArt | 4 I stopped a while back. Though I agree that it is important to debate I don't think this is an effective way to do it. But wow were there some comemnts in there I wanted to counter |
| suze2000 | and the world is better off without the taliban in power in Afghanistan |
| suze2000 | okay, stopping now. |
| suze2000 | Is there a Paris, MA? |
| Amy_Madison | if not them. there would most likely be someone/something else |
| Elais | yes, they did assist Al Queda |
| suze2000 | because it's hard for a Boston guy to be attacked in France with his dog? |
| Elais | we invaded because they refused to turn over Osama Bid Laden |
| suze2000 | la la la |
| Elais | we didn't invade to free the people of Afganistan |
| suze2000 | tra la la la |
| Amy_Madison | or Iraq |
| * MattH pats suze on the back |
| suze2000 | this is BTW not an admission of being wrong. just that I think we've discussed enough politics |
| suze2000 | :D |
| Elais | I think so Matt |
| MattH | I'm trying to get back on topic, I really am ;) |
| Elais | politics gets pretty heated these days |
| DeathIsYourArt | It is about time you all caught up with me |
| suze2000 | believe me, it's tempting to jump into it again too |
| Elais | how about something safer, like who Buffy should be with Angel or Spike? |
| DeathIsYourArt | LOL SPIKE!!! |
| suze2000 | lol |
| DeathIsYourArt | ONLY if Spike still want sher |
| Amy_Madison | unless TSC has something to do with politics. Lets move on the the next something...... |
| suze2000 | do you think Kitty and Candy are GOP sympathisers? |
| suze2000 | :D |
| DeathIsYourArt | HEY |
| suze2000 | lol |
| DeathIsYourArt | As Dru would say "ENOUGH" |
| suze2000 | |
| Amy_Madison | at least hes getting a new Spacey Award. the onther one was stolen I think |
| MattH | They aren't .... |
| suze2000 | 'twas a joke |
| MattH | Heh....Neither Spike or Angel.... |
| DeathIsYourArt | yes the Space station is sending hima new one |
| MattH | Xander..... |
| Amy_Madison | AH.... |
| suze2000 | bugger |
| suze2000 | I'm out of food |
| suze2000 | will have to go to the shop soon |
| suze2000 | :( |
| DeathIsYourArt | No, not Xander |
| suze2000 | what's wrong with Xander? |
| DeathIsYourArt | I am proud of Joss for showing an opposite sex friendship |
| suze2000 | I had a Canadian BF who reminded me of Xander a LOT |
| suze2000 | |
| DeathIsYourArt | I don't want thatt to be ruined with the old cliche that boys and girls can't just be friends |
| suze2000 | I have male friends who are just that |
| DeathIsYourArt | Exactly |
| suze2000 | (I've slept iwht a couple fo them though!!!!) |
| suze2000 | |
| DeathIsYourArt | *shakes head at you* |
| MattH | Xander has always wanted to be more the Buffy's platonic male friend. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Xander wants to egt in every girl he sees, he was hot for Dawn for crying out loud and all the potentials |
| DeathIsYourArt | NOT THE POINT |
| MattH | Admittedly, the converse is not the case. |
| suze2000 | and the other ones are all in relationships so no temptation there :) |
| Amy_Madison | I'll stick with Amber or Mrs. Denisof myself |
| suze2000 | Amy: ?? |
| DeathIsYourArt | Bad Suze *wags finger at you* |
| Amy_Madison | but never Sarah |
| MattH | Since when does someone being in a relationship remove the temptation |
| suze2000 | what can I say? I've always been bad |
| Amy_Madison | yes???/ |
| suze2000 | what do you mean: I'll stick with... |
| Amy_Madison | So... Suze are you going to put on leather and be naughty |
| Amy_Madison | then |
| suze2000 | as crush material, do you mean? |
| suze2000 | leather... I love leather... on car seats. It's a bugger to wear |
| suze2000 | except as shoes |
| DeathIsYourArt | That is why you go PVC |
| * suze2000 has sudden vision of Britney in that red pantsuit and the camel toe it induced. |
| suze2000 | EEK! |
| DeathIsYourArt | Lets never speak of Britney |
| suze2000 | you mentioned the PVC, I just fleshed it out a bit |
| MattH | Why not...I don't care for her singing, but have no particular dislike of her. |
| suze2000 | matt: I never hurt my friends. |
| DeathIsYourArt | PVC doesn't equal Britney |
| suze2000 | well, it was the first PVC image that came to mind. followed by that unfortunate outfit Sarah wore for Rolling Stone a few years back |
| DeathIsYourArt | Yes that was an unfortunate outfit. Though I must admit I would love to look that good in something similar |
| suze2000 | again with the camel too |
| Amy_Madison | Now that she (Alyson) is merried. I wonder if she still very seldom naughty |
| DeathIsYourArt | I haven't looked the photos...in a VERY VERY long time. Nt my thing, me being straight and all |
| suze2000 | I'm straight too, but it came up on a board I post on recently |
| DeathIsYourArt | ahhhh |
| DeathIsYourArt | happens |
| Amy_Madison | at least britney didnt pull a 'super bowl' Janet.. YET!!! |
| DeathIsYourArt | Just cut the pic off at the waist |
| suze2000 | then I got reminded of that lovely website www.cameltoe.org and it's all there |
| DeathIsYourArt | Amy: I think she has done quite enough as it is |
| suze2000 | I admit I don't think I was ever thin enough to wear either outfit |
| DeathIsYourArt | Okay, now I kow that there is a website for everything |
| suze2000 | DIYA: you betcha |
| MattH | You had doubts? |
| suze2000 | there's a place for everyone on the net! |
| Elais | and some of them should be in rubber rooms! |
| DeathIsYourArt | More like I was avoiding the temptation to find out |
| suze2000 | what about that one for people who like to cut bits off themselves? |
| suze2000 | that's gotta be the worst one I've ever seen |
| suze2000 | DIYA: good idea. I should take a leaf outta that book |
| Amy_Madison | dependin on what BITS where from |
| DeathIsYourArt | Speaking of that, I am suprised they still haven't made a drug commercial about the guy who while on crack had voices tell him to cut off his penis and eat it. |
| suze2000 | you're all looking at cameltoe.org now aren't you? |
| suze2000 | eww... did he do it? |
| DeathIsYourArt | nope, avoiding temptation again |
| MattH | I was ... I have moved to searching google for kitten origami |
| DeathIsYourArt | yes he did |
| suze2000 | lol matt |
| Amy_Madison | tell me if you find one from Miss Kitty Fantastico???? |
| DeathIsYourArt | Then there was the guy on acid that walked into a hospital in 94 told the staff he had a demon on him, grabbed a scalple and removed said demon |
| suze2000 | oh dear.. where was the nasty blighter? |
| DeathIsYourArt | Both of those incidents would make the BEST anti-drug commercials ever |
| Amy_Madison | or the guy who shot dugs onto his penis and it fell off in the shower |
| DeathIsYourArt | Where do you think Suze? |
| suze2000 | FELL OFF???!!! why did it fall off? |
| DeathIsYourArt | gangreen I think |
| Elais | ew |
| suze2000 | (you know why they use their willy? it gets to the point where that big vein up the back is the only one that's not collapsed) |
| DeathIsYourArt | Hey Matt how is that kitten oragami? |
| Amy_Madison | the drugs ate through the tissue and it fell off |
| Elais | I bet you are looking for kitten orgasms |
| Amy_Madison | been a long time ago, |
| suze2000 | my god what drug was he injecting? |
| suze2000 | a common typo I'm sure |
| MattH | Had the site wrong..it is bonsai kittens (I get all those Japanese names mixed up) |
| Amy_Madison | wouldn't that be Pussy-gasms |
| MattH | Site seems to be down though.... |
| DeathIsYourArt | the cops found the guy runnign it |
| MattH | Here it is - or a mirror http://bonsaikitten.chaos.org/bkintro.html |
| suze2000 | that's just some clever photoshopping, don't worry about it |
| DeathIsYourArt | Do I have to? |
| suze2000 | no, don't look |
| suze2000 | it's like those pics that are going around with kittens with human eyes |
| MattH | No you don't have too....if you are ... ahem... scaredykat ;-) |
| suze2000 | freaky |
| suze2000 | hyuk hyuk matt! |
| DeathIsYourArt | Nice try there Matt... this isn't highschool |
| MattH | I was more interested in the pun, actually... |
| Amy_Madison | says who |
| suze2000 | I got it |
| suze2000 | did anyone see that show about the people who were in love with their animals? |
| suze2000 | I mean REALLY in love |
| suze2000 | one guy married his horse!! (it's not illegal in some states, apparently) |
| suze2000 | a documentary, not Springer, that is |
| MattH | Ummm ... how can the horse say "I do".... |
| Amy_Madison | carefully |
| suze2000 | only if it's Mr Ed |
| suze2000 | :) |
| suze2000 | no, I had the same issues: how does an animal consent to being loved that way? |
| suze2000 | but by the end of the show, I just felt sorry for these people |
| DeathIsYourArt | What happened to animal abuse laws? |
| MattH | Yeah...mostly horses just say "neigh" |
| suze2000 | lol |
| suze2000 | not illegal in some US states |
| MattH | It may not technically be considered abuse... |
| Elais | judging from my spam |
| Elais | there are a lot of women willing to do it with a horse |
| DeathIsYourArt | Lets not even go there |
| suze2000 | eek |
| MattH | Hey ... if it is good enough for Catherine the Great.... |
| suze2000 | DIYA: this is what we're talking about |
| suze2000 | what what what?? |
| Elais | I rapidly run in the other direction, DIYA |
| suze2000 | what about Catherine the Great? |
| DeathIsYourArt | Some people should not be allowed to consume alcohol and should be genetically instilled with self respect. |
| MattH | Urban legend that she died due to a broken back...caused by a horse she was "gettin' it on with" |
| suze2000 | oh dear. don't play horsey with a real horse being the moral of that story? |
| Amy_Madison | but leap frog is still ok |
| DeathIsYourArt | You can play horsey on top of a horse with a guy in between but not WITH the horsey |
| suze2000 | snicker |
| suze2000 | sounds trickey though |
| Amy_Madison | actually, that yest another fetish site i've head about |
| DeathIsYourArt | nah you just post |
| suze2000 | so stirrups are needed for this? |
| DeathIsYourArt | They make it easier |
| Amy_Madison | ah |
| MattH | Snopes debunks the Catherine the Great story - http://www.snopes.com/risque/bestial/catherin.htm |
| DeathIsYourArt | LOL, I kinda wish I was talking from experience, but sadly I am not |
| * suze2000 writes that on the list of things to do before she dies |
| MattH | I think I'll leave that off my list. |
| suze2000 | not shagging the horse, shagging on the horse! |
| DeathIsYourArt | Just need a strong man and a strong horse |
| DeathIsYourArt | LOL |
| MattH | I was referring to both...I don't really like horses... |
| suze2000 | awwww... how can you not love a horse |
| MattH | By being around them ;-) |
| suze2000 | with those big brown eyes soft muzzle? they are so sweet |
| suze2000 | been bitten? |
| MattH | Nope... |
| suze2000 | thrown? |
| * suze2000 loves animals |
| MattH | Never ridden one.... |
| suze2000 | though I don't LOVE them |
| MattH | They just smell bad. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I think the horse hti on him and now he all uncomfortable |
| Amy_Madison | love animals or LOVE animals |
| suze2000 | he's a horseophobic? |
| DeathIsYourArt | yep |
| MattH | Ok...that comment actually did make me "LOL" |
| Elais | If I have to see one more 'Joey' promo.... |
| DeathIsYourArt | I'm so not going to watch that |
| Amy_Madison | you mean 'Friends' Part 2 |
| Elais | yeah |
| Elais | they had to do a show around the dumbest friend |
| suze2000 | hands up those who think Joey is going to suck? |
| * suze2000 raises hand |
| * DeathIsYourArt put hand high in the air |
| Elais | joey will suck, but friends fanatics will love it |
| suze2000 | hands up those who will probably watch it anyway |
| * suze2000 raises hand again |
| MattH | I though Friends sucked.... |
| Amy_Madison | Good thing we have Dark Sha... oh wait, no we dont |
| Elais | I didn't like joey then, and I won't now |
| DeathIsYourArt | The only thing I am checking out this season is "Lost" |
| suze2000 | I would have watched a Chandler show. I thought he was the funniest character of the lot |
| Elais | I suppose I should be grateful they didn't do a Rachel and Ross show |
| Elais | I like Chandler |
| Amy_Madison | I waiting for them to get desperate enogh to make 'Survivor ISS' |
| MattH | The only character I liked was the Monkey |
| Amy_Madison | Phoebe |
| Elais | didn't go for the geese? |
| DeathIsYourArt | Gunther |
| Amy_Madison | also liked her on Mad About You |
| MattH | Geese? |
| Elais | joey's and chandlers pets for a while |
| Amy_Madison | he means Ducks |
| MattH | I only saw a few eps |
| Elais | I thought one was a goose, but ducks is probalby right |
| Amy_Madison | been so long ago .... |
| suze2000 | eww a Rachel and Ross show? I'm SO not there |
| DeathIsYourArt | TV sucks, my computer rules *pets computer* |
| Amy_Madison | i'd rather see a Cordy spinoff like the one in 'Birthday' |
| Elais | Rachel and Ross are nails on blackboard |
| suze2000 | yeah, you can get TV without the ads if you download it |
| suze2000 | when you have something better than dialup that is |
| Amy_Madison | dont you me should be 'NAILED' To the chalkboard |
| * suze2000 can't wait to have a proper connection again |
| DeathIsYourArt | When will that be Suze? |
| MattH | Computers are nice....I remember when there was no PC or internet and 3 channels was all we had (I only had 2 - no aerial). |
| DeathIsYourArt | Shhh never speak ofthe dark ages |
| suze2000 | I think not until I get back to london and have a permanent home |
| suze2000 | lol the Dark Ages |
| suze2000 | or when I got my first Vic-20 |
| DeathIsYourArt | commadore 64 |
| Amy_Madison | compared to 'The Lite Ages'...... |
| suze2000 | followed by the COmmodore-64 with A TAPE DRIVE! |
| Amy_Madison | ATARI 5200 |
| MattH | Why, when we added numbers we used pencil and paper...in the snow....20 miles both ways....uphill |
| suze2000 | oh man! that was so sophistamackated |
| DeathIsYourArt | with no light |
| MattH | I had a C64 with a tape drive...taught myself 6502 machine language. |
| suze2000 | lol.... on a horse |
| DeathIsYourArt | HAHA HA HA HA |
| Amy_Madison | the old AppleII EZ'z |
| suze2000 | oh you forgot barefoot in the snow |
| Amy_Madison | FROM a horse |
| MattH | Nah...I wore shoes... |
| Amy_Madison | taught By a horse |
| DeathIsYourArt | on the horse or off it? |
| MattH | They had holes in them, but I wore them |
| DeathIsYourArt | the horse? |
| suze2000 | what the AppleII EZ? from the horse? |
| DeathIsYourArt | ROFL |
| suze2000 | ah well, you didn't have it as bad as when I were a lass |
| Amy_Madison | the Apple II EZ lauguage (BASIC) taught By a horse |
| DeathIsYourArt | You didn't have a horse Suze? |
| suze2000 | lol |
| MattH | First computer I really used (at school, prior to my C64) was an Apple II....before they came out with the IIe. |
| suze2000 | Mr Ed? |
| suze2000 | noo.. I had to crawl barefoot thru' t'snow pulling t'horse be'ind me |
| DeathIsYourArt | Pulling the horse, is that slag for........ |
| * suze2000 fakes a wee scottish accent for effect |
| Amy_Madison | you think that's bad. My original phone # used to be '6' |
| suze2000 | NOOO!! |
| * DeathIsYourArt snicker |
| Elais | gotta run guys |
| Elais | see you next week |
| *** Elais has left #TheSuccubusClub |
| DeathIsYourArt | bye Elais |
| suze2000 | I remember calling my auntie you had to phoen the operatore and ask for "Cobborah 1-2-6" |
| Amy_Madison | C U all next week then |
| suze2000 | and it was a party line, so you really had to shout down the line because all the neighbours would listen in too |
| MattH | CYA Amy |
| DeathIsYourArt | bye Amy |
| Amy_Madison | k |
| MattH | We used homing pigeons where I came from. |
| suze2000 | oh! |
| suze2000 | cya |
| suze2000 | lol |
| suze2000 | homing puffins? |
| DeathIsYourArt | I'm from Montreal, The first all electric city in the world. We had phones |
| MattH | Well, my brother used to race them .... |
| *** Signoff: Amy_Madison ((null)) |
| DeathIsYourArt | I was spoiled |
| MattH | There may have been a message or two in there. |
| suze2000 | you had to catch them, train them, but they would never come back? |
| MattH | Do tell.... |
| suze2000 | lol |
| DeathIsYourArt | well there is this device called a phone... |
| MattH | They came back....they were "homing" pigeons. |
| DeathIsYourArt | homo pigeons? |
| DeathIsYourArt | really? |
| suze2000 | whaddya mean: first all electric city in the world? |
| DeathIsYourArt | The first totally electric city in the world was Montreal |
| MattH | Yep...my brother was into things like that. |
| suze2000 | "Dear Matt: don't forget to brush your teeth. Yours, Matt" |
| MattH | He got out of it after a while. Sold the good birds... |
| MattH | I think we ate the rest. |
| DeathIsYourArt | cooked the bad ones? |
| DeathIsYourArt | Ewwww |
| suze2000 | whaddaya mean? it's a nebulous claim: did everyone have their lights on at once |
| suze2000 | ? |
| MattH | Pigeon, dare I say it, tastes a lot like chicken, IIRC correctly, but that was almost 30 years ago. |
| suze2000 | the homo ones or the straight ones too? |
| MattH | We didn't discriminate based upon sexual orientation...we were very progressive. |
| * suze2000 wonders how to sex a homo pigeon |
| DeathIsYourArt | All houses businesses etc? that were considered part of the city of Montreal were wired for electricity. Other big cities with electricity (London, New York) only had it in the richer districts at the time |
| DeathIsYourArt | LONG LONG TIME AGO |
| suze2000 | even 30 years ago? well, it was after Stonewall I guess wasn't it? |
| DeathIsYourArt | ? Lost me |
| suze2000 | those pigeons out there on those Pride Marches |
| suze2000 | that's why they didn't come home |
| suze2000 | Stonewall: notorious gay bashing that occurred in the 70s IIRC. CLosely followed by a kind of gay uprising |
| suze2000 | mass bashing |
| suze2000 | was very bad |
| DeathIsYourArt | I'm bad with names but remember events |
| MattH | This was mid-70s.... |
| DeathIsYourArt | before I was born |
| suze2000 | well, I was a kid, but learnt about it in high school I think. Or on the net. Or my Mum told me about it or something |
| suze2000 | hey, I went to Woodstock a couple of months ago |
| suze2000 | cute town. not much there though. strange to think of it as Hippy Central |
| DeathIsYourArt | Well it wasn't really. The residents had no idea what the hell was going on |
| MattH | I went to college in Berkeley....the last refuge of the 60s.... |
| suze2000 | well, the thing wasn't actually IN the town |
| suze2000 | when was that? |
| MattH | 86-89 |
| suze2000 | so did you inhale? |
| suze2000 | lol |
| MattH | Nope...never did any kind of drug... got drunk once. |
| suze2000 | just once? |
| DeathIsYourArt | Well I drink but have never been drunk |
| suze2000 | oh hang on, it's 21 there isn't it? |
| MattH | Once in college, twice in high school. Decided I didn't care for it. |
| MattH | Quit drinking when I became 21 |
| suze2000 | *rolls eyes* I drank a fair bit at uni |
| MattH | And yes, 21 is the legal drinking age in CA...which is like the speed limit...no one pays any attention to it. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I enjoy a good drink. I'm fortunate to have a high tolerance and I stop tasting the drink after #3 so I stop. And the drinking age in Quebec is 18 |
| suze2000 | I still drink a fair bit. not half as much as some people I know but a bit |
| MattH | Alcohol is too fattening for my taste... |
| suze2000 | makes it hard to keep your wieght down though |
| suze2000 | lol matt. we were thinking the same thing |
| MattH | Plus it is too expensive, and makes it really hard to program... |
| suze2000 | in the UK, a pint of beer in a pub is cheaper than a pint of Coke |
| MattH | Alcohol taxes are rather high in the states |
| DeathIsYourArt | Do you have beer stores too in the states? |
| DeathIsYourArt | Ontario has beer stores |
| suze2000 | actually, now that I think about it, booze was pretty pricey there. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Quebec has beer at the grocery store, the corner store, etc.... |
| suze2000 | of course, I wasn't much with the caring. I wanted to have a few drinks and I did |
| MattH | Beer only? No. Most 7-11s and stuff carry beer and wine. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Ya wine too |
| suze2000 | Australia has beer stores. we call them bottle shops. they carry all alcohol |
| DeathIsYourArt | Okay so it is only Ontario as far as I can find |
| suze2000 | you can't buy it at the supermarket like in the UK |
| DeathIsYourArt | Hard alcohol is sold at Liquer stores |
| DeathIsYourArt | How do you spell that in English Matt my French (very bad french) is taking over |
| DeathIsYourArt | the L word I mean |
| suze2000 | no. here you can't get it at all at the supermarket. |
| MattH | Canada is pretty much like the states regarding liquor then. |
| suze2000 | has to be a bottle shop |
| suze2000 | Liquor |
| DeathIsYourArt | tahnk you. That happens some times when you are used to talking in 2 languages to people without any speration |
| suze2000 | spelling in English can be tricky |
| DeathIsYourArt | my spelling has always sucked. And the English classes in Quebec are not the best |
| MattH | Thats cause we still so many words from other languages |
| suze2000 | though the French can offend in that regard as well... witness most c'est que sentences IMO |
| suze2000 | though my French sucks generally so it may just be me |
| DeathIsYourArt | French sucks teh big one |
| suze2000 | didn't you say you were in Montreal? |
| suze2000 | :) |
| DeathIsYourArt | Exactly, being English in Montreal means you are born with a genetic imprint to hate the French language |
| suze2000 | lol |
| DeathIsYourArt | Like the genetic imprint to hate the Toronto Maple Leafs |
| suze2000 | are you English? Or do you mean English-Canadian? |
| suze2000 | I had a BF last year who was from Winnipeg. |
| DeathIsYourArt | English Canadian with a father from Glasgow |
| DeathIsYourArt | Winterpeg? Don't date those guys |
| suze2000 | *rolls eyes* exciting city, that one |
| DeathIsYourArt | LOL |
| DeathIsYourArt | I want to see Gasgow so badly though |
| suze2000 | why not? :) |
| DeathIsYourArt | I'm kidding |
| suze2000 | pretty cold in Glasgow too ;) |
| DeathIsYourArt | Not compared to Montreal or Fort McMurray (Alberta). Lived in both and survived |
| suze2000 | well, he was okay, but... I better stop since this gets posted on a public board |
| MattH | Found the quote I was looking for: |
| MattH | The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary. |
| MattH | -- James Nicoll, rasseff |
| suze2000 | lol |
| DeathIsYourArt | That is a good one |
| suze2000 | thought you'd fallen asleep Matt |
| suze2000 | lol |
| MattH | Nope, but I'm getting there.... |
| suze2000 | I'm reading "Eats, Shoots and Leaves" at the moment |
| suze2000 | it's a book for grammar sticklers such as myself |
| suze2000 | apostrophe defenders unite! |
| DeathIsYourArt | You would hate my writing then |
| suze2000 | lol |
| MattH | He...I love that joke |
| DeathIsYourArt | I'm partial to the semi-colon, but I use it incorrectly more than half the time |
| suze2000 | I try to be tolerant but sometimes I just want to get a really huge red marker and scribble all over some people's spelling and grammar |
| DeathIsYourArt | If it is any consolation we don't mean to murder the English language, we were never taught how not to |
| suze2000 | me, I abuse full-stops... <--see? |
| MattH | I feel that way reading fanfic sometimes...I want to scream at the author - its "they're" not "their"... or similar stuff |
| suze2000 | lol. that's what the author of the book said. it's the fault of the edumacation systems in the 70s and 80s |
| suze2000 | they decided we didn't need to learn grammar |
| DeathIsYourArt | I think it also has to do with the Edufuckingcation of the 90's |
| suze2000 | yeah, I hate that one too Matt |
| suze2000 | but the worst of all is its and it's |
| MattH | That stupid "whole language" stuff...fortunately I was taught to read phonetically. |
| suze2000 | GGGRRRR |
| MattH | Got this off an Iraqi (IIRC) website - the Rules of English: |
| suze2000 | i learnt to read from books and picked it all up from there, mostly |
| MattH | 1. Verbs has to agree with their subjects. |
| MattH | 2. Prepositions are not words to end sentences with. |
| DeathIsYourArt | I kid you not. My grade 11 English teacher did not give us one book to read all year and when I asked for one I was told "i don't think the other students would be interested" |
| MattH | 3. And don't start a sentence with a conjunction. |
| MattH | 4. It is wrong to ever split an infinitive. |
| MattH | 5. Avoid cliches like the plague. (They're old hat). |
| MattH | 6. Always avoid annoying alliteration. |
| MattH | 7. Be more or less specific. |
| suze2000 | LOL |
| DeathIsYourArt | See, I could tell you what an infinitive was in French but not English |
| MattH | 6. Always avoid annoying alliteration. |
| MattH | 7. Be more or less specific. |
| MattH | 8. Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are (usually) unnecessary. |
| MattH | 9. Also, too, never, ever use repetitive redundancies. |
| MattH | 10. No sentence fragments. No comma splices, run-ons are bad too. |
| MattH | 11. Contractions aren't helpful and shouldn't be used. |
| MattH | 12. Foreign words and phrases are not apropos. |
| MattH | 13. Do not be redundant; do not use more words than necessary; it's highly superfluous. |
| MattH | 14. One should never generalize. |
| MattH | 15. Comparisons are as bad as cliches. |
| MattH | 16. Don't use no double negatives. |
| MattH | 17. Eschew ampersands & abbreviations, etc. |
| MattH | 18. One-word sentences? Eliminate. |
| MattH | 19. Analogies in writing are like feathers on a snake. |
| MattH | 20. The passive voice is to be ignored. |
| MattH | 21. Eliminate commas, that are, not necessary. Parenthetical words however should be enclosed in commas. |
| MattH | 22. Never use a big word when a diminutive one would suffice. |
| MattH | 23. Kill all exclamation points!!!! |
| MattH | 24. Use words correctly, irregardless of how others use them. |
| MattH | 25. Understatement is probably not the best way to propose earth shattering ideas. |
| MattH | 26. Use the apostrophe in it's proper place and omit it when its not needed. |
| MattH | 27. As Ralph Waldo Emerson said, "I hate quotations. Tell me what you know." |
| MattH | 28. If you've heard it once, you've heard it a thousand times: resist hyperbole; not one writer in a million can use it correctly. |
| MattH | 29. Puns are for children, not groan readers. |
| MattH | 30. Go around the barn at high noon to avoid colloquialisms. |
| MattH | 31. Even if a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed. |
| MattH | 32. Who needs rhetorical questions? |
| MattH | 33. Exaggeration is a million times worse than understatement. |
| MattH | 34. Proofread carefully to see if you any words out. |
| DeathIsYourArt | Matt Enough already |
| MattH | And that's it.... |
| suze2000 | oh crap I think someone's here |
| DeathIsYourArt | THANK GOD |
| suze2000 | phew it's across the road |
| suze2000 | oh that no 29 is bad |
| MattH | Yep...I like puns... |
| suze2000 | well I enjoyed it |
| suze2000 | nothing like a good pun to keep you on your toes |
| suze2000 | oh and I overuse exclamation marks too!! |
| suze2000 | :D |
| MattH | Oh, that's nothing!!!! |
| DeathIsYourArt | Okay, well I have to call it a night now. This was strange...let's do it again next week :P |
| DeathIsYourArt | Bye Matt |
| DeathIsYourArt | Bye Suze!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| MattH | CYA DIYA |
| suze2000 | really I thought it was really something!!! |
| *** Signoff: DeathIsYourArt ((null)) |
| suze2000 | lol |
| suze2000 | politics, animal sex, grammar |
| suze2000 | what more could you want? |
| suze2000 | oh rats |
| MattH | I notice that exlamation point was used much more frequently in comic books than any other form of punctuatin. |
| suze2000 | really??? I must check that out!!! |
| MattH | I would have preferred to skip the polics actually. |
| suze2000 | I crack myself up sometimes |
| suze2000 | (I have to amuse someone I guess) |
| MattH | I noticed it when I read "Secret Wars II"... practically every sentence ended with "!" |
| MattH | Time for me to take off as well |
| suze2000 | ah. keeps everyone honest to talk about it occasionally. otherwise you keep all your ignorance and misconceptions and they breed and before you know it your a right-wing nutter and I'm a hard-line commie! |
| suze2000 | okay. seeya next week. sleep well. |
| MattH | Hope to see you next week. |
| Session Close (#thesuccubusclub): Wed Aug 25 20:45:18 2004 |