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| Session Start (vendetta.fef.net:#thesuccubusclub): Wed Nov 03 17:49:42 2004 |
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| MattH | Hiya CM |
| Elais | heyas, Matt |
| Elais | I haven't thrown myself out the window |
| Elais | but I am wearing sackcloth and ashes |
| MattH | Obviously not.... |
| MattH | It isn't that bad... |
| MattH | Sackcloth and ashes is when you are doing penance.... |
| Elais | maybe I should have worn black? |
| MattH | I recall reading on a blog somewhere that the crew on Good Morning, America (or some such program) did all happen to be wearing black this morning. Just a coincidence, I guess |
| MattH | ;-) |
| Elais | LOL |
| Elais | I might convert to Catholicism so I can pray that the country survives Bush for the next four years. |
| MattH | Bush did pretty well among Catholics...better than last time. |
| Elais | yeah, it's weird |
| Elais | it seems that this time it wasn't about the economy |
| Elais | I worry, though. I strongly support gay rights including marriage |
| MattH | The economy is actually better than when Clinton was reelected in '96 ... by the numbers. |
| Elais | doesn't feel like it was better |
| MattH | I am against any government sanctioning/endorsement of marriage. |
| MattH | News reporting on it was worse, but the actual jobless numbers, and other economic growth numbers are slighly better. |
| MattH | I am just thrilled that Prop 66 here in CA was defeated. |
| Elais | which prop was that? |
| Elais | there seem to be a helluva lot of props |
| MattH | The one to secretly gut our 3 strikes laws - All living current and former CA governors opposed it. |
| MattH | Until last week, it was leading by abot 60% to 40% |
| MattH | CA has tons of propositions |
| Elais | how do you californians deal with so many props on the ballots? |
| Elais | we only had three here |
| MattH | Jack Daniels... |
| MattH | or his friends, Johnny Walker & Jimmy Bean |
| MattH | I generally vote no, unless I have a compelling reason to vote yes. |
| Elais | do you care what Arnie thinks? |
| MattH | Occasionally....I care what I think, mostly. ;-) |
| Elais | I voted no on the three we had here |
| MattH | I just checked - we had 16 propositions on the state ballot - not counting local propositions. |
| Elais | is that a record? |
| MattH | I voted yes on two, and no on the rest. |
| MattH | I don't think it is a record, but I don't know for sure. 2000 might have had more. |
| MattH | Just checked - 2000 only had about 8. |
| Elais | I noticed that Arnie usually threatens to take the issue to the voters, if he doesn't get his way with the legislature |
| MattH | He compromises a lot, too. CA Voters can be somewhat unpredicable. |
| Elais | yeah, he seems to know what he's doing |
| Elais | and seems like one big upbeat dude |
| MattH | He is pretty popular (approval rating about 60%) last I checked. |
| Elais | I wouldn't mind him as president |
| Elais | too bad he isn't allowed to run |
| MattH | I don't know that I would want him for president....too liberal in some areas for me. |
| MattH | In case you were despairing enough to think about moving to Canada - http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/03/canada.us.reut/index.html |
| Elais | I was already thinking about that |
| Elais | I know this single Canadian guy.... |
| *** redeem147 (hillerup@dialin-165-178.tor.primus.ca) has joined channel #thesuccubusclub |
| redeem147 | Hi guys |
| MattH | Hiya Colleen |
| redeem147 | What's shaking? |
| Elais | I might talk to him about moving to Canada |
| MattH | Not much ... I've just been trying to talk Elais out of moving to Canada. |
| redeem147 | Why? It's a lovely country |
| redeem147 | We have lots of flu vaccine and everything |
| redeem147 | Got my shot tonight |
| MattH | I got vaccinated in early October... |
| redeem147 | Good. Everyone should, if they can. |
| MattH | I got sick about a week and a half later. |
| redeem147 | Even if they're at low risk, they can pass it to people who aren't. |
| redeem147 | Most people who get the flu would have anyway. You can't get it from the shot. |
| redeem147 | It would have been in your system already |
| redeem147 | Or you had a different strain (which is one drawback) |
| redeem147 | I got that and two allergy shots. Feel like a pincushion |
| MattH | Actually, I think it was a cold.... |
| MattH | I generally get very nauseous when I have the flu, but that wasn't a problem. |
| Elais | to move to canada, I would probably need a work permit |
| redeem147 | True. Not that easy it emmigrate. |
| redeem147 | to, I mean. |
| redeem147 | Silly fingers. |
| MattH | Are they are different from spirit fingers? |
| redeem147 | Mine like to make typos. |
| Elais | I guess Canadian's are picky *g* |
| Elais | my Canadian friend lives in Calgary |
| redeem147 | I've never been there. |
| redeem147 | I think they have cowboys and such. |
| MattH | Oh joy - I have just started taking the local subway to work and there is an article about a subway collision in Washington. |
| MattH | http://www.wtop.com/index.php?nid=25&sid=319827 |
| Elais | which part of Canada are you from redeem? |
| redeem147 | Toronto |
| redeem147 | I take the subway every day. |
| MattH | I figure it is safer than driving...and I can read on it. |
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| redeem147 | I've been reading a lot. |
| FiatLux | Hello? |
| MattH | Hiya FiatLux |
| redeem147 | When I don't doze off (and almost miss my stop) |
| redeem147 | Hey |
| MattH | I did that last week..fortunately it was only by one stop...and they run every 10 minutes or so. |
| FiatLux | Hi, long time, no see. Have I missed anything? |
| MattH | Not really. |
| redeem147 | Just discussing the joys of mass transit |
| redeem147 | Is everyone watching Lost? |
| FiatLux | Well that's good. I was wondering what you all have been watching to take the place of Whedon shows? |
| MattH | Not I |
| MattH | I have been watching Veronica Mars, Smallville & Enterprise |
| redeem147 | I watch Lost, Smallville (yeah, I know WB, but I watch in syndication) and The Daily Show |
| redeem147 | and Davinci's Inquest, but that's Canadian and you probably don't know it. |
| FiatLux | I've watched one ep of Lost, is it worth watching more? |
| MattH | I tried to watch the pilot and couldn't get into it. |
| redeem147 | I really like it. |
| FiatLux | I just watched Smallville, only because I got hooked waiting for Angel. |
| redeem147 | I watch Smallville cause I'm a Superman nut. |
| MattH | I liked the first 2 seasons of Smallville better than last season or this one. |
| FiatLux | Yeah, I've never heard of Davinci's Inquest. |
| FiatLux | I'm in the States. |
| redeem147 | It's an excellent cop show, about a coroner. Blows CSI out of the water |
| FiatLux | Ok, so that's 50/50 for Lost. |
| FiatLux | Really? I like CSI. |
| Elais | I'm splitting my time between Smallville and Lost |
| redeem147 | I watch Smallville on the following Tuesday. Get a better signal anyway. |
| redeem147 | The WB signal here is pathetic |
| MattH | BTW, Fiat, thanks for the link to Bowman on your blog....fun game |
| redeem147 | Expecially Wed. nights, for some reason. |
| MattH | The only reason I have cable is because our UPN station was crappy and I was hooked on Buffy. |
| FiatLux | Yeah Harris, pretty cool distraction huh? |
| redeem147 | What's Bowman (besides the guy in 2001?) |
| MattH | http://ebaumsworld.com/bowman.html |
| FiatLux | I never figured me for a TV snob, but after Buffy I'm willing to give shows like Smallville a chance. |
| redeem147 | Smallville's not too bad this season |
| MattH | The influence of Buffy on Smallville is pretty extensive. |
| FiatLux | Yes! Matt. |
| FiatLux | I see it too. |
| redeem147 | Hm. The name Steve DeKnight couldn't have anything to do with that, could it? |
| MattH | It has been true for all 4 seasons of Smallville... |
| FiatLux | Hee hee, don't forget Drew last season. |
| redeem147 | I was impressed with Welling last night (or last week to you) - didn't expect to be |
| redeem147 | He makes a good villain |
| MattH | He did a good job, but I dislike body swap episodes. |
| MattH | Plus, I already saw that ep on Buffy ("Who Are You") |
| redeem147 | I don't mind them - gives the actors a chance to play |
| FiatLux | Well, I don't like to admit that I watch just because I'm atractive to actors, but.... |
| MattH | I don't think John Glover did that hot of a job as Clark. |
| FiatLux | It doesn't hurt. |
| redeem147 | Yes, that surprised me too. I thought Welling did a better job (but evil is easier) |
| Elais | I have to agree that Tom did better |
| MattH | You're attractive to actors? |
| Elais | not sure what else Glover could have done though |
| MattH | Welling would make a great villain. |
| FiatLux | Hey Harris, I'm only human. |
| redeem147 | I'm an actor, and no offense, but I don't find you that attractive ;) |
| Elais | he done the villain bit as Kal-el |
| FiatLux | Oh, it's OK, I don't care if "they" find me attractive; I just like looking. |
| redeem147 | Just teasing |
| MattH | I didn't really see Kal-El as much of a villain. |
| redeem147 | Red kryptonite Clark, you mean? |
| MattH | No...Kal-El as reprogrammed by Jor-El....first ep of this season. |
| redeem147 | I like seeing the things they take from the comics and the things they make up. |
| redeem147 | Oooh, when he was nekkid |
| MattH | I liked what they did with the Flash. |
| redeem147 | Okay, I'm shallow. |
| FiatLux | I think he could be a villian. But I think they made the right choice and dumped him. It's not time for him yet, I want to see Superman struggling. |
| Elais | yeah, I liked the Flash episode too |
| FiatLux | I missed that ep. |
| FiatLux | Was it good? |
| MattH | I am getting tired of the Kryptonite everywhere thing, though....I have trouble seeing how Superman can be successful when Kryptonite isn't as rare as it is in the comics. |
| MattH | Yeah....I'd like to see the a return of Bart (Flash) in another ep or 2. |
| FiatLux | But like me, and maybe some other viewers, I'm not that versed in the comic book lore. Heck, Smallville and Lois and Clark are my Superman Bible. |
| MattH | Lois and Clark |
| * MattH shudders... |
| FiatLux | Hey! |
| FiatLux | I liked that show. |
| MattH | While I was a Marvel Zombie growing up I also read a lot of the Superman/Superboy comics - Legion of Superheroes also. |
| redeem147 | I like the way they blend a bit of Superboy, bit of Superman |
| MattH | Lana was more interesting in the comic books though. |
| redeem147 | Lana's new boyfriend looks like the Pete Ross of the comics (they guy she ended up marrying) |
| Elais | tonights ep of Smallville wasn't quite as successful as the Flash ep |
| MattH | Yeah...I know the character they are using...I have trouble seeing how they can work that one in without a real comic book feel... |
| FiatLux | I don't know much about Lana since I'me not up on the comics. |
| MattH | Well... in the comics she was a redhead...not at all angsty and introspective. |
| redeem147 | The comics have changed. Lana was his girlfriend in the old Superboy comics. In the newer continuity, she was his friend (who was in love with him) but not his girlfriend |
| MattH | I haven't followed DC comics post-Crisis. |
| redeem147 | She used to be an archaeologist's daughter, now she's a farmer's daughter (though she recently left Pete, who's Lex's VP) |
| redeem147 | I read them in the early 60s, then switched to marvel, then went back to DC and Superman in the late 80s |
| MattH | Did Clark still date Lori Lemaris in college? |
| redeem147 | Yeah. I'm waiting for that on the show :) |
| FiatLux | I've never heard that name. Did he ever go out with someone without the initials LL? |
| MattH | I really don't read comics anymore...I gave them up after Marvel resurrected its vampires...(I was a big Dr. Strange Fan) |
| redeem147 | I lost interest in Marvel when they split up Spiderman into so many continuities - now DCs done it with Superman. |
| redeem147 | Well, except Fantastic Four. I still get that. |
| redeem147 | And, of course, Astonishing X-Men |
| MattH | Yeah...I couldn't keep track of all the Spider and X-Titles. |
| MattH | Joss has done an Awesome job on X-Men...practically Uncanny how well...;-) |
| FiatLux | Maybe it's because I sometimes read Television Without Pity recaps, but lately I'm thinking that Clark and Lex have to get together. |
| MattH | I can see how they come to that conclusion, but I don't buy it... I really like the Clark/Lex relationship, though. Harkens back to the original relationship in the comics. |
| FiatLux | I liked um... what ever his name was (myxlxplex?) but wasn't he from another demension and not just another country? |
| MattH | Yep. Looked like Mr. Magoo, too. |
| MattH | Mr. Mxyzptlk, was from the Fifth Dimension |
| Elais | people have been putting Clark and Lex together I think even before the first ep of Smallville |
| FiatLux | I know enough about Superman lore to know that I don't remember a mention of Lois's cousin Chloe, but I really like her in the series. |
| MattH | I don't think Lois had much of a family in the comics (other than her father).. I do like Chloe...I just figure she will be killed off sooner or later for continuity's sake. |
| FiatLux | Watching Smallville, I kinda want them to get together. |
| MattH | I normally dislike Lois Lane, but I like Erica Durance's version - she is the only version of Lois I can see Clark/Superman actually getting together with. |
| FiatLux | Yeah, I thought that she'd be dead given last seasons ending, but... |
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| redeem147 | Lois' father is military (like on the show) - her mother was very ill (which is when she and Clark got together) |
| MattH | Oh - she is still alive in the comics? |
| redeem147 | Far as I remember - she doesn't show up much. |
| redeem147 | Her dad hates Clark - thinks he's a wimp. |
| MattH | That is one thing I disliked about the comics - Clark Kent pretending to be a wimp...I know it is part of the disguise ...but he could just wear a mask.... |
| redeem147 | Clark is so not a wimp now - just her dad's perception. |
| redeem147 | He's not crazy that Lucy (Lois' sister's) husband is black, either. |
| MattH | Oh... Archie Bunker Lane.... |
| redeem147 | Much like. |
| MattH | So...does he call Clark "Meathead" |
| redeem147 | No. |
| redeem147 | He may think it. |
| redeem147 | It was funny with the Flash. They worked in every name the different ones have had, I think |
| redeem147 | Can Green Arrow be far behind? |
| MattH | Yeah...in all his ID cards...Barry Allen, Wally West |
| redeem147 | Or Aquaman? |
| MattH | I'd rather see Green Lantern or Batman. |
| redeem147 | Do you watch Justice League. My friend told me to watch the other night. It was Booster Gold as The Zeppo. |
| MattH | Wonder Woman or the Martian Manhunter would be nice also. |
| redeem147 | Pretty much the same as the Buffy ep. |
| redeem147 | I think the Lana thing will tie into Wonder woman. |
| MattH | I haven't watched that ep yet....but I do watch. |
| Elais | I want my Batman ep |
| MattH | In the Silver Age comic, she had a ring that gave her some sort of powers....occasionally did the superhero thing as "Insect Queen" |
| MattH | Rumor has it that a T. Welling is listed on the cast list for the movie "Batman Begins" |
| redeem147 | There are many rumours. |
| MattH | Yes...but this is a nice, interesting, juicy rumor. |
| redeem147 | I'm heading out. Nice talking n' all. |
| MattH | CYA |
| redeem147 | Specially about comics, which is one of my favourite things :) |
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| Elais | i better get going myself |
| MattH | Yeah...same here. |
| Elais | maybe I'll see you one day in Canada, redeem? :-) |
| MattH | I do have some good news for you, CM |
| MattH | Ashcroft is resigning, according to Drudge. |
| Elais | yes, Matt? |
| MattH | http://www.drudgereport.com/ |
| Elais | I had expected Bush would clean house, so to speak |
| MattH | I don't - much, anyway. Look how long he kept Tenet. |
| MattH | Anyway, I'll see you next week. |
| Session Close (#thesuccubusclub): Wed Nov 03 19:55:23 2004 |